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Offline Hawkgirl

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Help!
« on: December 02, 2009, 06:56:27 PM »
So I was doing some verbal sparring with a coworker tonight.  He is from India and admits to hating the Pockistanis.  He's also a democrat...(not SO much a liberal).

We hit on a few different points.  First of all, he agrees with Noblama about withdrawing and said it's not the US's place to fix everything.  He agrees with no US intervention and says it's a mistake to be in the Middle East.  He says we have a double standard and how we should be at war with the Saudi's since they produced most of the 9/11 hijackers. 

When I asked him if he agreed with the US intervention of WW2 and liberating the Jews he was silent.
When I asked him if he agreed with the US intervention of Bosnia, he was silent. 
When I asked him if the agreed with the US intervention of the Iraqi's to include the removal of the rape rooms, he said "well, american soldiers are raping the iraqi women now, just as they did in Vietnam", I was silent and  :o, in which I responded with we lost many american lives liberating them.

Then on to the mortgage crisis and he said it was the Federal Reserve's fault and never heard of CRA.

I can debate most of his points with one exception.....the Saudi argument...he says it's about money.  when he tried to say we were in Afghanistan because of money, I said the US  has no interest in selling Opium...he became quiet...but what's my response to the Saudi argument?

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Re: Help!
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 06:59:12 PM »
Ask him how much it's worth to the Indian and Chinese governments to keep their economies afloat.

And no, we are NOT raping women in Iraq, nor was it prevalent in Vietnam.  Was there prostitution?  Yes.  There is a large, large difference between prostitution and rape.

Frankly, for a guy who comes from a country where marrying out of your own caste can get you killed, he's got no ****ing room to talk.
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Re: Help!
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 07:05:03 PM »


And no, we are NOT raping women in Iraq, nor was it prevalent in Vietnam.  Was there prostitution?  Yes.  There is a large, large difference between prostitution and rape.



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Re: Help!
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 07:21:29 PM »
what's the value in spending close to a 1/2 trillion on a war for oil... that 1/2 trillion buys a lot of oil.  No value whatsoever in fighting a war over oil when we have more oil in the USA than the mideast.

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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 07:39:13 PM »
No value whatsoever in fighting a war over oil when we have more oil in the USA than the mideast.

Too bad we can't tap into them :whatever:

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Re: Help!
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 12:13:28 AM »
I suppose that if someone ever had a group of people attempt mass murder of their comrades, they would hate that group, too. When we were deployed to Desert Shield, we hired some Pakis as cooks while we were shore based. (no ship support). This group we hired, two were caught attempting to poison our food and kill off 2/3rds of my squadron. So, yeah, I HATE them, too. **** em.
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Re: Help!
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 04:42:52 AM »
Tell him that if he thinks the U.S. shouldn't go around helping everyone...then the Government back in Delhi shouldn't come to the U.S. for aid or assistance the next time there's a big earthquake or other natural disaster on the sub-Continent.

And while they are at it...they can return what ever kind of foreign aid money they get from us.

The Saudi government is not a state sponsor of terrorism.  That's like blaming the U.S. government for Eric Rudolph or Tim McVeigh.
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Re: Help!
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 09:35:03 AM »


The Saudi government is not a state sponsor of terrorism. 

That's what I told him.  I think most democrats just hate this country.  They never defend her...WE are always in the wrong and our soldiers rape their women.  They never bring up their sacrifice or are they even grateful for their service.  I don't know why I even bother.

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Re: Help!
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 09:43:41 AM »
That's what I told him.  I think most democrats just hate this country.  They never defend her...WE are always in the wrong and our soldiers rape their women.  They never bring up their sacrifice or are they even grateful for their service.  I don't know why I even bother.

I'm always amazed at how Libtards will regurgitate the most tinfoil things off of alternet...HuffPo...truthout and media matters about the U.S. and our reasons for fighting the WoT as if they are Holy Writ...yet completely dismiss anything reported on Fox News.

I had a lib on my hometown forum try and dismiss something I posted that had a FNC website link in it...even after I pointed out that it was an AP story.
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