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Offline franksolich

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primitives rest in peace
« on: October 29, 2009, 01:14:20 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6883001

Oh my.

First up, the ascot primitive:

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derby378  (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-29-09 02:05 PM
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Public Option: RIP

Well, that's it. Neither the Senate bill nor the House bill will have a robust public option. Instead, they only offer a pseudo-public option that is only available to the uninsured and deliberately set up to fail.

In the meantime, we get stuck with a mandate to buy private health insurance or face either fines or extra taxes, depending on which version of the bill passes conference.

This is NOT change I can believe in. This is a sell-out. And Big Insurance is being rewarded for bad behavior - their squawking mercenaries at the August townhall meetings have had the desired effect of killing the public option.

How is Barack Obama going to explain this to Sasha and Malia?

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Teaser  (1000+ posts)      Thu Oct-29-09 02:07 PM
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1. argle bargle boogedy boo

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guitar man  (1000+ posts)      Thu Oct-29-09 02:08 PM
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2. only available to the uninsured?

So does this mean it's available if I drop coverage with my employer, or do I have to quit my job or get fired to qualify for it?

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Armstead (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-29-09 02:10 PM
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6. You will prob ably have to die to qualifty for it

They're putting on so many restrictions and hurdles that it will basically be meaningless to the majority of Americans -- and to the insurance comnpanies.

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librechik  (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-29-09 02:09 PM
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3. calm down. That's our toe in the door. In 2010 we can get enough people to fix it. Let's work on that.

(smiley face--I'm disappointed, too.And i can't talk about Obama's role, I'm too angry.))

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Armstead (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-29-09 02:09 PM
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4. Get your helmet on for incoming fire......But I basically agree with you

It's shameful that they felt like they had to neuter the public option, which was already a major compromise for those who wanted a real solution of single payer.

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Libertas1776  (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-29-09 02:09 PM
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5. Sadly, I drank one cup too many of the "Obama-Hope-Change-Democrats" Kool Aid.

This morning has been like one giant sobering cup of black coffee.

Ha ha.
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 02:03:08 PM »
It is a very very very bad bill. Even the DUmmies know it.
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2009, 02:04:40 PM »
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librechik  (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-29-09 02:09 PM
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3. calm down. That's our toe in the door. In 2010 we can get enough people to fix it. Let's work on that.

(smiley face--I'm disappointed, too.And i can't talk about Obama's role, I'm too angry.))

That's what I fear.  This is what the libs always want.  They say they want a LITTLE bit of something when in fact they want a whole lot of something.

Slippery slope and all that.

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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2009, 02:14:07 PM »
Quote from: Texacon on October 29, 2009, 02:04:40 PM
That's what I fear.  This is what the libs always want.  They say they want a LITTLE bit of something when in fact they want a whole lot of something.

Well, I'm mystified at whatever it is, that makes the primitives think they're "going to get enough people to fix it" in 2010.
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2009, 02:32:42 PM »
Quote from: FGL on October 29, 2009, 02:03:08 PM
It is a very very very bad bill. Even the DUmmies know it.

I hope enough of y'all who have reps and congress folks who will support it get on the phone to them to express your displeasure.  I know my elected officials won't support it.

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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2009, 02:37:52 PM »

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3. calm down. That's our toe in the door. In 2010 we can get enough people to fix it. Let's work on that.

(smiley face--I'm disappointed, too.And i can't talk about Obama's role, I'm too angry.))




Ok, far be it from me to jack this thread, but, just what does one do when the Fuller Brush man sticks his foot in your door??
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2009, 02:41:41 PM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on October 29, 2009, 02:37:52 PM
:jacked2:
Ok, far be it from me to jack this thread, but, just what does one do when the Fuller Brush man sticks his foot in your door??

I don't know about anyone else, but I stuff my Beretta up his left nostril.......

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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2009, 02:49:55 PM »
Quote from: TVDOC on October 29, 2009, 02:41:41 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I stuff my Beretta up his left nostril.......

doc

I usually put a bit of pressure on it and keep increasing it until it moves.   :-) 
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2009, 02:57:58 PM »
Do they still have Fuller Brush men? How about those guys who used to sell encyclopedias?
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2009, 03:07:59 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on October 29, 2009, 02:57:58 PM
Do they still have Fuller Brush men? How about those guys who used to sell encyclopedias?

I think Fuller Brush is still around, but they stopped door to door selling decades ago......I see Fuller products at Ace Hardware here locally, so they seem to have gone legit.....or were acquired by someone that is just using the name......

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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2009, 04:30:01 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 29, 2009, 02:14:07 PM
Well, I'm mystified at whatever it is, that makes the primitives think they're "going to get enough people to fix it" in 2010.

The bizarre world they exist in where what they believe is what must be real.
My hope is that once the exact details of the bill on the floor become known it will be an anchor around the neck to many dems.
Look for some chicanery to bypass normal procedure and have votes almost instantly.
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2009, 05:27:08 PM »
You know, I don't think I ever heard the phrase "public option" until the tea parties start going this summer.  I checked google news going back to 2000 and they give an interesting chart these days:

link to google news search for "public option" 2000-2009
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2009, 05:38:54 PM »
Quote from: Duke Nukum on October 29, 2009, 05:27:08 PM
You know, I don't think I ever heard the phrase "public option" until the tea parties start going this summer.  I checked google news going back to 2000 and they give an interesting chart these days:

link to google news search for "public option" 2000-2009

My guess is that most of those earlier mentions of public options had to do with stocks, or something unrelated to health care.
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2009, 06:07:49 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 29, 2009, 02:14:07 PM
Well, I'm mystified at whatever it is, that makes the primitives think they're "going to get enough people to fix it" in 2010.

Coach, they're still under the spell of Hopey McChangeSnorter.
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2009, 11:37:18 AM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on October 29, 2009, 02:37:52 PM
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Ok, far be it from me to jack this thread, but, just what does one do when the Fuller Brush man sticks his foot in your door??
 

See if he can outrun the dog.
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2009, 11:58:19 AM »
Quote from: wasp69 on October 30, 2009, 11:37:18 AM
 

See if he can outrun the dog.

+1

Not once have a feared for my wife's safety while at home alone.  For one, she's a better shot than I am.  But that wouldn't matter; it would be far, far more entertaining to see my other two babies in action if they thought for one second that she was in danger.  Just ask the fellow from Directv who made the mistake of not knocking before coming in the back door during installation.  That poor men spent the rest of the day outside.

At any rate, back to your regularly scheduled programming...
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Re: primitives rest in peace
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2009, 01:58:46 PM »
If you go over and read this original thread, you can see there is a WHOLE LOT of unhappiness around.  I wonder if we'll see a great many fresh faces next year in congress?   Getting rid of these 20, 25, 30 + year career politicians would go a long way. 
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