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primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« on: October 20, 2009, 04:28:23 PM »
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no_hypocrisy  (1000+ posts)      Mon Oct-19-09 03:30 PM
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I've changed my diet entirely.

My naturopath took comprehensive tests of my digestive system twice within a period of eight months and the results were consistent: micro-organisms in my "gut", probably indicating a leaky gut. Not only does this explain why I haven't been able to lose weight (mal-absorption) but in the present state, I could develop auto immune disease (which also explain the high level of antibodies when my thyroid was tested).

So long story short: I tested positive for sensitivity to cow's milk and products from it, so I'm off that. I now do soy milk, rice milk, and almond milk. I miss my cheese but I'm allowed some goat or sheep cheese once in a while. And I have to give up wheat. Yep, pasta, bread although I'm not sure about beer. I'm allowed sprouted bread so I'm now ready to embark on sprouting wheat berries and bake my own.

My new diet is beans and rice for breakfast, salad for lunch, and stir fry for dinner. I've lost four-plus pounds in two weeks and my energy is better.

I miss the bread and cheese, but I'm now past the cravings and I want to heal the leaky gut.

Does anyone else have experience with any of this?

Yeah, yeah, another one of these militant anti-milk crusaders.

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Systematic Chaos  (1000+ posts)      Mon Oct-19-09 07:50 PM
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1. I used to have constipation from even small amounts of chese that was critically bad.

That's my main reason for giving it up other than the fact that I was huge (still very big at 6'3" and over 400 lbs.), very diabetic and had several other problems. Dairy, meat and fish protein is why America and other countries are now so sick. Find and read a book called "The China Study" at your local library to learn a lot more about this.

What you're doing for yourself is excellent, and I commend you for it and wish you all the best of luck! Sprouted grain breads can be bought for a reasonable price in stores like Trader Joe's. Fresh & Easy and Whole Foods both have products like that as well.

Major hint: When you make your stir-frys, use a non-stick pan and NO OIL. Instead, saute your v*****s in some low sodium soy sauce, or even better, Bragg's Liquid Aminos, and then throw in the cooked rice and toss around for a couple minutes. Learn to adapt as many recipes as you can to no added oil, and avoid it in the things you buy at the store like the plague.

Excess dietary fat (as in, more than 10 - 12% of calores from fat unless you're very athletic and then you can have about 17% when you're working out intensively) is one of the worst contributors to all kinds of sicknesses and diseases there is. And this includes supposedly "healthy" oils like olive oil and canola oil.
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2009, 04:36:02 PM »
Well....there's my problem...I'm 64 years old and I've never changed my oil.
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2009, 05:18:08 PM »
Why do people think they should get diet advice from Planet DUmmie?
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2009, 05:27:51 PM »
What the heck is a "naturopath"?
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2009, 05:43:01 PM »
No meat and cheese?  Why live?  If I can live to 80 eating meat and cheese or 100 eating like these folks are suggesting...... I think I will take the 80 with the meat and cheese.

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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2009, 05:48:26 PM »
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I've lost four-plus pounds in two weeks and my energy is better.


 :lmao: He could lose that much from his morning constitutional (DUmp).
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2009, 05:52:11 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on October 20, 2009, 04:36:02 PM
Well....there's my problem...I'm 64 years old and I've never changed my oil.

There's bound to be a dipstick joke here somewhere but I don't think I am going to poke around looking. :tongue:
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2009, 07:05:49 PM »
Quote from: Texacon on October 20, 2009, 05:43:01 PM
No meat and cheese?  Why live?  If I can live to 80 eating meat and cheese or 100 eating like these folks are suggesting...... I think I will take the 80 with the meat and cheese.

KC
No kidding!  My great-grandparents ate anything they wanted, and lived to be 89 and 97.  My grandmother made 99.  My mother, who always watched what she ate and stayed very thin...74.  I think I'll stick to eating whatever I want...but not getting as big as a car.   ::) ::)
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2009, 08:22:45 PM »
A naturopath must be some kind of quackery like aromatherapy or acupuncture or chiropractic or a shaman.

The presence of micro-organisms in your gut is an indication that you are a normal human being.

DUmmies want to believe anything except the fact that weight loss is a matter of calories burned vs. calories consumed.
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2009, 01:10:14 AM »
This is ridiculous! These morons think if they eat certain crap they will lose weight. Uh, guest what DUmp Monkeys it's not what you eat, ya can't eat a dumptruck full of anything and expect to lose a coupla lbs.!
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2009, 04:06:04 AM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on October 21, 2009, 01:10:14 AM
This is ridiculous! These morons think if they eat certain crap they will lose weight. Uh, guest what DUmp Monkeys it's not what you eat, ya can't eat a dumptruck full of anything and expect to lose a coupla lbs.!

That would be "common sense"--the least common thing at the DUmp.
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2009, 06:26:55 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on October 20, 2009, 08:22:45 PM
A naturopath must be some kind of quackery like aromatherapy or acupuncture or chiropractic or a shaman.

The presence of micro-organisms in your gut is an indication that you are a normal human being.

DUmmies want to believe anything except the fact that weight loss is a matter of calories burned vs. calories consumed.

And you know what's crazy? Eating a healthy, well-balanced diet and moving is probably actually a lot easier then having to make regular(pricey) trips to Whole Foods for "sprout grain whatever bread". All the cateloguing and nitpicking over food has got to take a lot of time and energy and is probably not worthwhile unless there are specific allergy issues to certain foods. But telling them to consume an average amount of calories and work out and you are being hateful, but a dr. McQuack tells them they have leaking guts, need a 5 dollar loaf of bread, oh and btw regular 'therapies' with Dr. McQuack and by God, that's the gospel.  :lmao:
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2009, 07:58:12 AM »
Gigantic primitive is full of advice...at 400 pounds he ought to try it...geeeeze. ::)
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2009, 08:17:57 AM »
Quote from: cottondress on October 21, 2009, 07:58:12 AM
Gigantic primitive is full of advice...at 400 pounds he ought to try it...geeeeze. ::)

441 pounds, actually, but I haven't checked this week's weight loss yet.
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2009, 08:38:44 AM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on October 21, 2009, 01:10:14 AM
This is ridiculous! These morons think if they eat certain crap they will lose weight. Uh, guest what DUmp Monkeys it's not what you eat, ya can't eat a dumptruck full of anything and expect to lose a coupla lbs.!

The gigantic primitive said last week that he had a punchbowl-sized salad didn't he?
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2009, 08:47:38 AM »
Quote from: FGL on October 21, 2009, 08:38:44 AM
The gigantic primitive said last week that he had a punchbowl-sized salad didn't he?

Mixing bowl I believe.  Either way, and enormous amount of food. 

You know what, I've been watching the Biggest Loser this year, and there was a woman who started at at 476, larger that this DUmmy.  She did the same workouts as the other contestants, she has to eat the same food, and she has lost 64 pounds over 7 weeks.  I'm sure she isn't eating a mixing bowl of salad.  She does just fine on the treadmill, or stairclimber, or weight machines.  She isn't 6'3" either.
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2009, 08:52:21 AM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on October 21, 2009, 08:47:38 AM
Mixing bowl I believe.  Either way, and enormous amount of food. 

You know what, I've been watching the Biggest Loser this year, and there was a woman who started at at 476, larger that this DUmmy.  She did the same workouts as the other contestants, she has to eat the same food, and she has lost 64 pounds over 7 weeks.  I'm sure she isn't eating a mixing bowl of salad.  She does just fine on the treadmill, or stairclimber, or weight machines.  She isn't 6'3" either.

If Gigantor is 6'3" its only because he has an inch of fact on the bottom of his feet and another ontop his skull, so he's just 6'. I think he added another inch too, just because Dummies lie.
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2009, 02:43:23 AM »
Quote from: FGL on October 21, 2009, 08:38:44 AM
The gigantic primitive said last week that he had a punchbowl-sized salad didn't he?

The quart of low fat ranch still had 1900 calories.  :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2009, 02:47:34 AM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on October 21, 2009, 08:47:38 AM
Mixing bowl I believe.  Either way, and enormous amount of food. 

You know what, I've been watching the Biggest Loser this year, and there was a woman who started at at 476, larger that this DUmmy.  She did the same workouts as the other contestants, she has to eat the same food, and she has lost 64 pounds over 7 weeks.  I'm sure she isn't eating a mixing bowl of salad.  She does just fine on the treadmill, or stairclimber, or weight machines.  She isn't 6'3" either.

I watched that show last night, it's pretty touching to see how hard those folks try.
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Re: primitive describes leaking stomach; gigantic primitive shows up
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2009, 03:39:48 AM »
Quote from: RobJohnson on October 22, 2009, 02:43:23 AM
The quart of low fat ranch still had 1900 calories.  :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

an entire bottle of bacon bits. 5 lbs of grilled chicken. and the always healthy 3 ltr of soda. 'diet' of course.
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