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Offline jinxmchue

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SCOTUS rejects Pledge challenge
« on: October 05, 2009, 01:36:00 PM »
A Florida teenager has lost his bid to have the US Supreme Court decide whether students in public schools have a First Amendment right to refuse to stand and repeat the Pledge of Allegiance.

The underlying lawsuit did not challenge the content of the Pledge. Instead, at issue was a Florida law that requires all public-school students, Grades K-12, to stand and repeat the Pledge, unless excused in writing by a parent.

The law was passed in 1942 and had apparently gone unchallenged until December 2005. That's when Cameron Frazier, a junior, arrived for his fourth-period math class at Boynton Beach High School and informed the teacher that as a matter of conscience, he would neither stand nor recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

"You clearly have no respect. You are so ungrateful and so un-American," the math teacher told Cameron in front of the class. "Do you know what's out there fighting our war? That flag you refuse to show respect to."

Cameron stood his ground. "No," he said. "Our soldiers are out fighting a war. The flag is an inanimate piece of cloth that doesn't move and surely can't hold a gun."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/1005/p02s07-usju.html


That's true, jackass.  The flag can't hold a gun, but the millions of Americans who bled and died for what that flag represents could.  So why don't you just move to Cuba and kiss ol' Castro's warty, spotted ass and leave those of us who love our country's flag the hell alone?
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Re: SCOTUS rejects Pledge challenge
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2009, 01:45:46 PM »
Why didn't he just get a note from his parents?  Why no mention of the parents in the article?  That seems curious.
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Re: SCOTUS rejects Pledge challenge
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2009, 02:07:01 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on October 05, 2009, 01:45:46 PM
Why didn't he just get a note from his parents?  Why no mention of the parents in the article?  That seems curious.

Because he's a smartaleck jackass.  I knew a guy in high school like this kid.
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Re: SCOTUS rejects Pledge challenge
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2009, 02:09:01 PM »
What in the hell is happening in our schools today.  I just finished winning a small battle in our school district.  What I fought is something that is running rampant in Texas.  I don't know about your area but here it is epidemic and it pissed me off to no end so I started fighting it.

Our football players for the last couple of years have been slapping the shoulder pads of the player in front of them (or slapping their chest if they have their hand over their heart) towards the end of the National Anthem.  It is all over!  Every school I have seen doing this I have emailed telling them how disappointed I am that they would allow the kids to disrespect our Anthem like that.  THEN OUR SCHOOL started doing it!  I was furious!!

I talked to our principal a couple of times.  I then talked to our athletic director who told me the superintendent didn't have a problem with it.  Then I called the president of the school board.  It stopped that night.  I just got an apology from our superintendent and ONE of the schools I emailed contacted me saying they were sorry I was offended and they would stop doing it.

The athletic director told me he had called 19 other people and out of those only one had a problem with it.  I told him I didn't give a damn if he contacted 3,000 and NONE had a problem with it ... it is wrong and it needs to stop!

I can't believe our kids are doing these things and the teachers seem to have no problem with it.  I asked the AD if he allowed them to do that in class while citing the pledge and he just laughed.  Said it wasn't the same thing.

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Offline USA4ME

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Re: SCOTUS rejects Pledge challenge
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 06:52:16 AM »
That's weird.  I went to public HS in Tampa 10th - 12th grade (1977-1979) and I don't ever remember saying the pledge at school.  We probably did during a school assembly or something like that, but that only happened maybe 4 or 5 times during the whole school year.

I'm getting with a old HS buddy of mine this weekend.  I'll try to remember to ask him if we did or not.

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Re: SCOTUS rejects Pledge challenge
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 10:15:15 AM »
We always said the pledge my whole time in school. Maybe becuse I went to DoD schools?
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Re: SCOTUS rejects Pledge challenge
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2009, 11:15:20 PM »
I stated the pledge every day I was in school. Once in Jr high and Highschool we said it in first period, every day!

Our country has gone to hell! Our children are no longer required to show respect, unless it's for the GLBT perverts! Then by gum you better bow and kiss some ass! Oh and make sure you know how to put that rubber on correctly!
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Re: SCOTUS rejects Pledge challenge
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2009, 11:55:05 PM »
I went to private catholic school and we still said the Pledge every morning in addition to our prayer.  My daughter, who is only 3 months old is zoned for that high school.  It will be a cold day in hell before she attends that school, which has a D rating.  I'll move or switch her to private.  The schools in florida are failing.
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