Twix candy bar primitive confuses the other primitives

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6567048

Oh my.

TwixVoy  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-16-09 09:32 PM
Original message
 
Texas Lawmaker proposes repeal of sales tax on pet food to benefit senior citizens

Associated Press - September 15, 2009 2:25 PM ET

McALLEN, Texas (AP) - A South Texas legislator has proposed a repeal of the state sales tax that is currently applied to dog and cat food. State Representative Don Culberson (R-TX) proposed the legislation after being made aware by activist groups that many senior citizens were having to subsist on ramen noodles and in some cases dog food after paying monthly medical bills. Culberson has been an outspoken opponent of health care reform and has strongly advocated reforms of the tax code to better allow working Americans to pay for medical costs.

Culberson was quoted as saying "While I don't believe any senior citizen should have to be in a position of eating dog food if they have no other choice we at least should provide them the ability to do so with out paying a tax. This sales tax which was strongly supported by Democrats is forcing senior citizens who can barely afford medical costs to pay taxes on whatever food they can manage to afford"

Under the legislation a senior citizen would be able to claim an exemption and purchase dog and cat food tax free after giving a signed statement to the cashier at the time of purchase which swears the food will be consumed by them and not a pet.

More at link....

http://www.newschannel10.com/global/story.asp?s=1113494...

TwixVoy  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-16-09 09:32 PM
Response to Original message
 
1. After you give this a good read....isn't the sad thing the fact it is believable? (no the story is not real)

virgogal (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-16-09 09:45 PM
Original message
 
Why did you post it as real?

TwixVoy  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-16-09 09:51 PM
Response to Original message
 
8. To demonstrate just what a joke health care is in this country and that things such as this are now beliveable.

virgogal (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-16-09 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #8
 
9. Sorry,but it was very misleading.

virgogal (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-16-09 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #1
 
7. Why did you post it as real?

Paladin  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-17-09 04:37 AM
Response to Reply #1

16. So---You Couldn't Find Enough Real-Life Outrages To Post?
 
Very poor judgment on your part.......

Kookaburra  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-16-09 09:35 PM
Response to Original message
 
2. Holy crap!!!

WTF is WRONG with those people?

And this is for real? I was so sure it was an Onion piece, but no.

emilyg  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-17-09 01:11 AM
Response to Reply #2
 
14. Not real.

Xipe Totec  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-16-09 09:36 PM
Response to Original message
 
3. Words fail me

williesgirl  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-16-09 09:38 PM
Response to Original message

4. I'm shocked. This cretin needs to be taught a lesson when every senior in his district votes him out of office at the next opportunity. How crass and unfeeling can you get? This asshole isn't even human.

virgogal (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-16-09 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #4
 
10. Not a true story---see other posts by OP.

santamargarita  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-16-09 09:42 PM
Response to Original message
 
5. How Republican of him

virgogal (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-16-09 09:42 PM
Response to Original message
 
6. Nonsense!

Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-16-09 10:00 PM
Response to Original message
 
11. Re: most of the responses in this thread - are you people seriously this gullible?

Or too lazy to click the link?

Confusious  (918 posts)        Thu Sep-17-09 03:14 AM
Response to Reply #11
 
15. Sorry, but after all the things that have gone on...
 
I can believe it, but I clicked on the link to make sure.

It a sad sad sad sign of the times, that a skeptic like me can believe this.

MajorChode  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-17-09 05:47 AM
Response to Reply #11
 
17. You obviously don't live in Texas

It's really not a question of gullibility because there are some dumb-as-dogshit legislators in the state of Texas that would not surpise me one bit for saything something that stupid. When George W. Bush, Kay Huchinson, and Gov. Goodhair are the turds that float to the top around here, that should give you a hint of what lies underneath.

Laelth  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-16-09 10:13 PM
Response to Original message
 
12. It is believable ... completely. We live in a very cruel country, and we know it. 

Yeah, this is in fact a very cruel country, that allows infants to be murdered without a second thought.

Louisiana1976  (278 posts)        Thu Sep-17-09 12:10 AM
Response to Original message
 
13. I didn't believe it--I understand that stories of seniors eating pet food are an urban legend.

It was no legend during the administration of the Incompetent One (1977-1981), but back then, pet food was cheaper than human food, which isn't the case any more.

MajorChode  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-17-09 05:51 AM
Response to Reply #13
 
18. It probably did happen decades ago

But you can buy a can of beans cheaper than a can of dogfood today, so there's not much point.

[Token]

Yeah, this is in fact a very cruel country, that allows infants to be murdered without a second thought.

I don't really disagree. Abortion is an issue I must never touch at DU, or I will get voted off the island very quickly. Personally, I find abortion morally bothersome, particularly after the first trimester, when the fetus becomes noticeably infant-like. I suppose abortion ought to be available in the first trimester, simply because banning it outright is never going to be politically feasible, and my fellow leftists do make some strong points about the undesirability of forcing a woman to carry a pregancy to term, etc. First-trimester abortions are an acceptable compromise for me because they do not involve an infant-like fetus, but rather a relatively undeveloped zygote.

After the first trimester, however, I think abortion should be restricted. At this stage, the fetus begins to have things like a heartbeat, a brain, well-formed body parts, etc. It also may very well have the capacity to feel pain, which introduces a major moral stumbling block for me. Second-trimester abortion is very morally dubious to me. I don't like it, and I refuse to to subscribe to the fallacious "my body, my choice" logic. A fetus is not "your body" simply because it is dependent on you for survival. By this logic, abortion should be legal up to the age of adulthood, because the children are still dependent on the parents for survival.

Third-trimester abortion is essentially blatant infanticide and should be banned in all cases but those involving a direct physical threat to the mother's well-being. In most cases, I'm as much of a bleeding heart as the next lefty, and willing to lend an understanding ear to all kinds of psychological challenges. However, when it comes to extinguishing human life, using psychological distress as an excuse simply does not cut it. I don't care if having a kid will make you feel down in the dumps or whatever, if you allowed it to mature to the third trimester, you're having it. Infanticide is not a morally acceptable option, period.

As you can see, this is a topic I must forever shut up about at DU, for obvious reasons.

[franksolich]

As you can see, this is a topic I must forever shut up about at DU, for obvious reasons.

Nobody can possibly be more pro-life than yours truly--maybe MrsSmith here--but I fully recognize I'm not going to get my own way.

However, I do think my opinion on the matter is just as valid as those of anyone else.

And so since I'm not going to get the whole loaf, I'll settle for half of it.

Getting an abortion is not the same thing as clipping a toe-nail.

It's less than what I want, but I'd be satisfied if abortions were done only after long and thoughtful contemplation.

[Token]

Not so long ago, a thread appeared at DU where people were declaring themselves not just pro-choice, but "pro-abortion." I found that rather appalling. I can't remember if I voted it down. I may not have, because there are frequently claims that the owners can see who voted down a thread and those who vote down certain threads get tombstoned.

How anyone can identify themselves as "pro-abortion" is beyond me. What is there to celebrate about terminating innocent life?

[djones520]

Not so long ago, a thread appeared at DU where people were declaring themselves not just pro-choice, but "pro-abortion." I found that rather appalling. I can't remember if I voted it down. I may not have, because there are frequently claims that the owners can see who voted down a thread and those who vote down certain threads get tombstoned.

How anyone can identify themselves as "pro-abortion" is beyond me. What is there to celebrate about terminating innocent life?

We have noted a number of "polls" that seemed designed solely to root people out for banning.  I do believe one of them was for those with pro-life feelings.  If you voted anti-abortion, Skinner canned you, not discussion at all.

[JohnnyReb]

OK DUmmies....who has'em?....the recipes for dog food....cough'em up.

[franksolich]

OK DUmmies....who has'em?....the recipes for dog food....cough'em up.

That's what I'm wondering.

Despite that I'm not a cat person, I take responsibility seriously, including the responsibility of being sure the cats here are shot, neutralized, and well-fed.

I don't buy the Grade A++ cat food, only the Grade A cat food (Friskie's, with the occasional IAMS hairball chow), and it's not cheap.

I'm cheaper to feed than the cats.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The whole dog food/cat food thing always strikes me as having a high BS quotient even when it's in a serious story.  That crap costs just as much as real food, the stuff that's more-or-less edible-looking costs even more than an equal-sized can of people food.

[Texacon]

MajorChode  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-17-09 05:51 AM
Response to Reply #13
 
18. It probably did happen decades ago

But you can buy a can of beans cheaper than a can of dogfood today, so there's not much point.

Yeah but you can buy a can of beer cheaper than you can buy a can of beans!  I think I'll take the beer.   

KC

[ReardenSteel]

OK DUmmies....who has'em?....the recipes for dog food....cough'em up.

Dog food food or Dog's as food? 

I think I had a school lunch hot dog (years ago) that could have gone either way. 

[BlueStateSaint]

That's what I'm wondering.

Despite that I'm not a cat person, I take responsibility seriously, including the responsibility of being sure the cats here are shot, neutralized, and well-fed.

I don't buy the Grade A++ cat food, only the Grade A cat food (Friskie's, with the occasional IAMS hairball chow), and it's not cheap.

I'm cheaper to feed than the cats.

While I have no doubt that you indeed are cheaper to feed than the cats, the portion I put in red doesn't sound right.  I know what you're saying, but some people drifting through this thread might not. 

However, in the interests of full disclosure, I have switched from Fancy Feast to Friskie's, because the cans of Friskie's can get four feedings of Oreo, and the cans of Fancy Feast can get only two.  Plus, the Friskie's is a few cents cheaper per can that I can get four meals for Oreo out of, than the Fancy Feast cans that I can only get two meals for Oreo out of.  In any event, Oreo shows evidence of being very "well-fed."

[Chris_]

I don't really disagree. Abortion is an issue I must never touch at DU, or I will get voted off the island very quickly. Personally, I find abortion morally bothersome, particularly after the first trimester, when the fetus becomes noticeably infant-like. I suppose abortion ought to be available in the first trimester, simply because banning it outright is never going to be politically feasible, and my fellow leftists do make some strong points about the undesirability of forcing a woman to carry a pregancy to term, etc. First-trimester abortions are an acceptable compromise for me because they do not involve an infant-like fetus, but rather a relatively undeveloped zygote.

After the first trimester, however, I think abortion should be restricted. At this stage, the fetus begins to have things like a heartbeat, a brain, well-formed body parts, etc. It also may very well have the capacity to feel pain, which introduces a major moral stumbling block for me. Second-trimester abortion is very morally dubious to me. I don't like it, and I refuse to to subscribe to the fallacious "my body, my choice" logic. A fetus is not "your body" simply because it is dependent on you for survival. By this logic, abortion should be legal up to the age of adulthood, because the children are still dependent on the parents for survival.

Third-trimester abortion is essentially blatant infanticide and should be banned in all cases but those involving a direct physical threat to the mother's well-being. In most cases, I'm as much of a bleeding heart as the next lefty, and willing to lend an understanding ear to all kinds of psychological challenges. However, when it comes to extinguishing human life, using psychological distress as an excuse simply does not cut it. I don't care if having a kid will make you feel down in the dumps or whatever, if you allowed it to mature to the third trimester, you're having it. Infanticide is not a morally acceptable option, period.

As you can see, this is a topic I must forever shut up about at DU, for obvious reasons.

Although I could quibble over some details, I find your position a reasoned one, considering today's political realities.........unlike what we are accustomed to from our more liberal visitors.

Welcome Token........

doc

[AllosaursRus]

I don't really disagree. Abortion is an issue I must never touch at DU, or I will get voted off the island very quickly. Personally, I find abortion morally bothersome, particularly after the first trimester, when the fetus becomes noticeably infant-like. I suppose abortion ought to be available in the first trimester, simply because banning it outright is never going to be politically feasible, and my fellow leftists do make some strong points about the undesirability of forcing a woman to carry a pregancy to term, etc. First-trimester abortions are an acceptable compromise for me because they do not involve an infant-like fetus, but rather a relatively undeveloped zygote.

After the first trimester, however, I think abortion should be restricted. At this stage, the fetus begins to have things like a heartbeat, a brain, well-formed body parts, etc. It also may very well have the capacity to feel pain, which introduces a major moral stumbling block for me. Second-trimester abortion is very morally dubious to me. I don't like it, and I refuse to to subscribe to the fallacious "my body, my choice" logic. A fetus is not "your body" simply because it is dependent on you for survival. By this logic, abortion should be legal up to the age of adulthood, because the children are still dependent on the parents for survival.

Third-trimester abortion is essentially blatant infanticide and should be banned in all cases but those involving a direct physical threat to the mother's well-being. In most cases, I'm as much of a bleeding heart as the next lefty, and willing to lend an understanding ear to all kinds of psychological challenges. However, when it comes to extinguishing human life, using psychological distress as an excuse simply does not cut it. I don't care if having a kid will make you feel down in the dumps or whatever, if you allowed it to mature to the third trimester, you're having it. Infanticide is not a morally acceptable option, period.

As you can see, this is a topic I must forever shut up about at DU, for obvious reasons.

I'm curious, the most abhorent thing I find in abortion, as it exists today, is it is being used as birth control! EXACTLY what is your opinion on that? Since you think the first trimesters can be okay for those who want to end a human life, what's your stance on using it as birth control?

[BadCat]

Nobody can possibly be more pro-life than yours truly--maybe MrsSmith here--but I fully recognize I'm not going to get my own way.

However, I do think my opinion on the matter is just as valid as those of anyone else.

And so since I'm not going to get the whole loaf, I'll settle for half of it.

Getting an abortion is not the same thing as clipping a toe-nail.

It's less than what I want, but I'd be satisfied if abortions were done only after long and thoughtful contemplation.

AZ just passed and the governor just signed, a bill imposing a 24 hour "wait" on any abortion procedure.
The state moonbats are howling so loud, they're attracting coyotes from New Mexico.

[USA4ME]

williesgirl

I'm shocked. .... How crass and unfeeling can you get? This ******* isn't even human.

I agree, the Democrats in this ficticious story should be ashamed of themselves for wanting to tax senior citizens for the pet food they need to eat.  But I'm not surprised.

.

[AllosaursRus]

I agree, the Democrats in this ficticious story should be ashamed of themselves for wanting to tax senior citizens for the pet food they need to eat.  But I'm not surprised.

.

If these morons ever bothered to research anything, they would find out tuna fish and regular hamburger is cheaper than dog food. The stupidity of these people never fails to amaze me.

Besides that, some of the canned food I feed my bassettes would be an upgrade for some of this hamburger helper crap!

[franksolich]

AZ just passed and the governor just signed, a bill imposing a 24 hour "wait" on any abortion procedure.
The state moonbats are howling so loud, they're attracting coyotes from New Mexico.

When I lost my right elbow the morning of January 20, 1993--great day that was--since it wasn't immediately life-threatening and I was always conscious and competent, there was no surgery done until everyone was confident that I understood what was going on, and understood the advantages and disadvanges of the surgery.

This is what I mean, about a waiting period; problem (or infant) diagnosed, and then time to think about it, after which one proceeds, whichever way one wishes to go.

[Token]

I'm curious, the most abhorent thing I find in abortion, as it exists today, is it is being used as birth control! EXACTLY what is your opinion on that? Since you think the first trimesters can be okay for those who want to end a human life, what's your stance on using it as birth control?

I find it repugnant. Abortion should definitely not be used as a form of birth control. I have little respect for women who engage in careless behavior with the thought "if I get pregnant," I can just get rid of it." To me, this is an indicator of very low moral character. Most at DU would probably disagree, of course, but that's just the way I've always seen it. I am far from a perfect person, but morality is important to me. Not all leftists are amoral or "anything goes" relativists.

[GOBUCKS]

If the oldtimers want to chow down on pet food, that's okay, although most cat food smells kind of nasty for my taste.
Gravy Train, on the other hand......
It would be be a personal choice, since human food can easily be had more cheaply.
And where does this DUmmy get off slurring ramen noodles?
My freezer is every bit as expensively stocked as that of the braggart DUmmy Husb2Sparkly, but I still love those instant
ramen noodles, and keep them stocked in the cupboard continually.

This thread is similar to the most pathetic bouncy lies.
No matter how absurd the premise, DUmmies will believe anything someone wants to post.

[The Village Idiot]

I don't buy the Grade A++ cat food, only the Grade A cat food (Friskie's, with the occasional IAMS hairball chow), and it's not cheap.

Cats love tuna. I don't have a clue how they came about a taste for tuna, I doubt it was while they were in the wild where their contact with tuna was pretty much nil.

So if the store-brand tuna is ever for sale, go for it.

Seniors are NOT eating dog food. Not unless they like that bacon and liver flavored kind.... /joking

[Chris]

Seniors are NOT eating dog food. Not unless they like that bacon and liver flavored kind.... /joking

Some of those cereal-based dry dog foods taste exactly like the five-dollar-for-a-small-box brand name cereals you see in the breakfast aisle.

Don't ask me which one.  I only tried it once, but it tasted just like All Bran.

[The Village Idiot]

People Chow!