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Offline franksolich

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primitive gets a Snowe job
« on: August 21, 2009, 07:21:07 AM »
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Oh my.

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MarianJack  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-21-09 12:46 AM
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My adventure with our 2 (allegedly) moderate independent repub Senators today. 

Hi everybody.

This morning, I called both of our Senators' offices. I expressed my wife's and my concern that health care reform be passed NOW!

I stressed (as I always do) that while we are Democrats, both my wife and I respect Sens Snowe and Collins. We emphasized that they are both thoughtful, intelligent and well meaning people but that Sarah Palin(comparison), glenn beck, rush limbaugh nd michael steele are not. I stated that as Maine residents who've both been unemployed (my wife still is) at one time for a year and a half and who are currently homeless and living in transitional housing, we know that reform of health care is DESPERATELY needed. I also said that the Senators, both being sensible and perceptive legislators, KNOW that the stories of rationing and death panels are not true. I implored them to do the right thing.

I have been politically active for 41 years, ever since I stuffed envelopes for Bobby Kennedy in 1968. I damn well know when I'm being blown off, and BOY HOWDY, did the staff people at the senators offices ever do that today! I'm used to it from Collins' office. It always happens when I ID myself as a Democrat (even though I've never said one negative of disparaging thing about her to her staff). I was stunned when it happened with Snowe's office, where they are usually very courteous.

The lesson of this is, to me, that grassley is just the face of an epidemic. If Snowe and Collins are, at the very least, not listening to pro-reform constituents, bi-partisan is really off the table.

You know what though? That's OK. The media (as usual) doesn't get it. People don't pay attention in August. When push comes to shove, the republicans will have NO credibility screaming that they were left out when they gave credibility to lies and said NOTHING as teabaggers with guns screamed socialist and nazi while lying about death panels as their leaders negotiated in bad faith.

After my calls to Snowe & Collins' offices, I called my Congresswoman, Chellie Pingree. I sure felt a lot better after getting off the phone with her office. In principle, I believe in our President's desire to reach out to those who disagree. Now, however, it's time to step away from that on this one.

I want the Democrats to invoke Reconciliation and ram Health Care reform down the republicans' throats and up the teabaggers' asses.

I want to be able to NAIL the hypocrisy of the rightists as they take full advantage of what they opposed.

Most of all, I want to see our President do what he has shown himself a master of doing. Making his opponents destroy themselves while believing they spite him.

And I want to see it soon!

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Chipper Chat  (1000+ posts)         Fri Aug-21-09 12:55 AM
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1. I suspect the two ladies are getting the black sheep treatment from Michael Steele and company. Now that Specter has left the party the 2 Maine Goppers must be pretty lonely as the wedge between them and the Palinistas widens. They should follow Arlen's lead and bolt the party and maybe become Bernie Sanders-style independents. If they vote with the democrats for pro-health care reform they will forever be pariahs in the Party of Jesus.

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MarianJack  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-21-09 01:11 AM
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2. Many Times I've suggested... 

...that they may want to consider that they are no longer in the party of Abe, Teddy or Ike but of rush, sean, glenn & sarah.

If they stood up for what their party can be and emulated the first woman Maine senator (Margaret Chase Smith whho stood up to fellow repub mccarthy) ok, but...

They need to remember what Burke (a conservative himself) said; "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men (and women) to stand by abd do nothing".

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John Q. Citizen  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-21-09 01:12 AM
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3. The best Dems could do would be to split Heath reform into two bills and the Public Option could be passed in reconciliation, but all of the rest (insurance reform, an exchange,) would have to be passed the regular way.

Reconciliation only works for budget related items. There are limits to what can done through that method.

Until Baucus get his bill done, everybody is kind of on hold. The House can do some stuff with their bill, but not too much because they want them to line up at least somewhat.

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MarianJack  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-21-09 08:05 AM
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4. Hopefully grassley... 

...will either pull his head out of his ass or, much more likely, just walk away from the table so we can do it on our own.

Yeah, that's what franksolich would prefer too, the Democrats doing it on their own.
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Re: primitive gets a Snowe job
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2009, 10:11:11 AM »
If he's unemployed (for a year and a half) and homeless, how is he having long conversations with congress offices and posting at the DUmp? 

I don't understand the year and a half thing.  Wouldn't you take a job, any job at all, rather than face abject pennilessness? 
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Re: primitive gets a Snowe job
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 10:14:25 AM »
Even for a stealth-moonbat like Snowe, the screen has to at least flicker with the phrase "What are the odds that these idiiots will vote Democrat no matter what I do here?  I need to just get these fools off my phone."
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Re: primitive gets a Snowe job
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2009, 10:28:52 AM »
Snowe and Collins?  Moderate?  AYFKM?  These two Obama Comfort Girls are to the LEFT of some Dem Senators.
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Re: primitive gets a Snowe job
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2009, 10:36:55 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on August 21, 2009, 10:28:52 AM
Snowe and Collins?  Moderate?  AYFKM?  These two Obama Comfort Girls are to the LEFT of some Dem Senators.
With these two queens plus Che and Shaheen a good case can be made to repeal the 19'th don't ya think?
They give new meaning to women  + suffrage. :uhsure:

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Re: primitive gets a Snowe job
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2009, 11:03:02 AM »
Try having a reality based conversation with Boxer or Feinstein.
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Re: primitive gets a Snowe job
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2009, 04:37:31 PM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on August 21, 2009, 10:36:55 AM
With these two queens plus Che and Shaheen a good case can be made to repeal the 19'th don't ya think?
They give new meaning to women  + suffrage. :uhsure:



Ann Coulter has said that the solution to fixing this country is to repeal the 19th Amendment.
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Re: primitive gets a Snowe job
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2009, 04:40:35 PM »
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Most of all, I want to see our President do what he has shown himself a master of doing. Making his opponents destroy themselves while believing they spite him.

Has anyone got a clue what he's talking about?  The only thing I've seen him master is ****ing shit up.
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Re: primitive gets a Snowe job
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2009, 04:43:04 PM »
Quote from: djones520 on August 21, 2009, 04:40:35 PM
Has anyone got a clue what he's talking about?  The only thing I've seen him master is ****ing shit up.

Which makes him the poster child for teh ghey community...
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