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A discussion of police by the DUmmies is interesting, considering the arrest records they were bragging about in their poll yesterday. So many of them have been co-stars on "COPS", it's hard to believe they are unbiased observers.

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MrBig (112 posts)      Sat Jul-25-09 08:23 PM
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Generalized Police Bashing Needs to Stop
This is my first original post on DU. I've lurked here for quite awhile making the occasional post here and there, but I haven't been so disgusted by anything as much as I have by the complete generalized bashing of all law enforcement officers here.

It's important for all of you cop bashers/haters to keep in mind:

I don't doubt that you've had some terrible interactions with the police, and it might even be based on the racist/prejudicial beliefs of said officer(s). This does NOT, however, mean that ALL police officers are racist/prejudice. All of your interactions with police officers combined does not come close to equaling "most" or "all" police officers.


The generalizations that you are making about police officers are the same ones that led you to distrust police in the first place. Saying "all police are bad" is not true. Saying "most" police are bad isn't true unless you can show that there are at least 400,000 police officers that are bad. This is no different than saying "most poor people are lazy" or "most Muslims are terrorists". These are generalizations.


It is NOT progressive to generalize a group of people.


I don't know what happened with Mr. Gates and Officer Crowley. I'll even say I believe Officer Crowley overreacted. I don't believe there were any racial motivations on the part of Officer Crowley, but even if there were you cannot take that attribute and put it on most or all police officers. It's simply wrong.


I just needed to get that off my chest. Hopefully we can have better discourse on the subject than has been seen recently.

 DUmp noob MrBig is risking a tombstone by sounding reasonable. We know he's not, since he's a DUmmy, but this post is what kids might call "cruisin' for a bruisin'". The DUmp does not disappoint:

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BlooInBloo  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-25-09 08:25 PM
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1. **** cops.
   
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izquierdista (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-25-09 08:46 PM
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25. Yes, ****'em
 I'm glad you are so quick with an appropriate comment.

If cops don't want to be painted with a broad brush, they can tear down their ****in "blue wall" and get rid of the assholes in their midst.
   
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Fire_Medic_Dave  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-25-09 08:48 PM
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28. Like that "outstanding" racist officer that gets to visit the White House and have a beer with Obama


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tj2001 (338 posts)      Sat Jul-25-09 08:27 PM
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3. Generalized police worship needs to stop
 Cops are humans, not gods. Many of them are liars and assholes, since the "profession" offers a natural affinity for such types.
 

Coach's erstwhile protege DUmmy Mythsaje, who has obviously had many unhappy interactions with law enforcement:
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Mythsaje  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-25-09 08:53 PM
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35. Cops defend their own, even when they're obviously in the wrong...
 and that needs to stop.

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rollingrock (1000+ posts)     Sat Jul-25-09 08:55 PM
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42. I second that.
 Officer Crowley hasn't even accepted Obama's invitation to the WH,
which indicates to me he's another typical asshole cop. 

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sea four (4 posts)      Sat Jul-25-09 08:33 PM
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Every cop I've run into has been a major dick.
 I'm not generalizing, just saying that's what I have seen. Maybe there are nice police, but I've never met one. 

Most of the DUmmies who comment on this thread are clearly familiar with the enticing aroma of pepper spray and the paralyzing jolt of a taser.
DUmmy Th1onein, one of the DUmp's most deranged characters, tries to move the discussion onto ground more compatible with democrat policies by paraphrasing the comments of the jug-eared Kenyan:
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Th1onein  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-25-09 08:58 PM
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HEY! You know what?
 Sometimes it's TIME to generalize. When we see our fellow Americans, on a daily basis, all over this country, being tased to death, being choked to death, being shot to death, without provocation, and generally treated less humanely than stray dogs, we get ****ING SICK OF IT. Our rights are being violated left and right by these ****ers, and I'm only talking about the ones that make the news. Can you IMAGINE how much of this shit goes on, against the helpless, and the powerless, those who don't know how, or who can't speak out. We're ****ING SICK OF IT. You understand?

And, now, after having joined our forum way back in 2009, having posted only a little over 100 posts, you think that you can come on here and say some shit like "Generalized Police Bashing Needs to Stop"? Who do you think you are?

These Nazis support the status quo and the status quo is killing our fellow Americans. What's more, they support it at the point of a taser, or a gun. WE'RE ****ING SICK OF IT.

**** you.

Yep, DUmmy Th1onein has very skillfully decoded the president's remarks into language the DUmp can understand.

I think DUmmy sandnsea must have made a big mistake in his behavior during his most recent arrest:
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sandnsea  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-25-09 08:35 PM
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13. If I'm treated well I respond well
 If they think they're going to give me a lecture or puff their chest at me, then that's not going to go so well. Unfortunatley, most (oh no, the dreaded most) have been given terrible training in how to interact with people. It starts with them, the PROFESSIONALS, bashing all citizens and lumping all of us together as Charles Manson criminals.


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MrSlayer  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-25-09 08:50 PM
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31. There is a small but vocal group of cop haters here.
 Most people realize that there are good ones and bad ones as there are in any profession.
   
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-25-09 08:56 PM
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43. I've not noticed it being a small group
 Seems like cop haters overflow this place.
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-25-09 08:54 PM
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40. Is a good cop who covers for or tolerates a bad cop really a good cop?
   
 
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BlooInBloo  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-25-09 08:57 PM
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45. Of course not. That's why there are virtually no good cops.


 

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Bashing The Police - Agree It's A Good Thing
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2009, 09:37:30 PM »
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Mythsaje  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-25-09 08:53 PM
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35. Cops Liberals defend their own, even when they're obviously in the wrong...
 and that needs to stop

Edited for accuracy.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Bashing The Police - Agree It's A Good Thing
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2009, 09:39:10 PM »
General police bashing is wrong.  Specific police bashing is a-okay. </DUmp>
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Bashing The Police - Agree It's A Good Thing
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2009, 01:41:06 AM »
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sandnsea  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-25-09 08:35 PM
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13. If I'm treated well I respond well
If they think they're going to give me a lecture or puff their chest at me, then that's not going to go so well. Unfortunatley, most (oh no, the dreaded most) have been given terrible training in how to interact with people. It starts with them, the PROFESSIONALS, bashing all citizens and lumping all of us together as Charles Manson criminals.

The best solution to an attitude like this is a good beating.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Bashing The Police - Agree It's A Good Thing
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2009, 06:44:35 AM »
Sadly, there seems to be a similar subset of the "cops can do no right" over at FR as well.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Bashing The Police - Agree It's A Good Thing
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2009, 09:48:43 AM »
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Bashing The Police - Agree It's A Good Thing
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2009, 10:11:29 AM »
If I had been Sgt Crowley and Obama called me, I would have not accepted the call and said, "He insulted me publicly.  When he apologizes to me publicly, I will talk to him privately."
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Bashing The Police - Agree It's A Good Thing
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2009, 03:01:07 PM »
If I had been Sgt Crowley and Obama called me, I would have not accepted the call and said, "He insulted me publicly.  When he apologizes to me publicly, I will talk to him privately."

It reminds me of an old story from an old magazine (probably the 1930s).

A prominent drama critic had trashed the writer of a Broadway play, really good.

However, the public liked the play.

One night the critic and writer encountered each other in the men's restroom of a restaurant in a famous hotel.  While both were standing side-by-side, doing the standing-up business, the critic told the writer he was was wrong, and was sorry; it was in fact a really good play.

To which the writer said, "Well, next time, how about insulting me in the men's room, and apologizing to me in the newspaper?"
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