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DUmmies Discuss DUmp Brilliance
« on: July 17, 2009, 11:58:27 AM »
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Phoebe Loosinhouse  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jul-17-09 09:42 AM
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I think 20 of the better thinkers from this site could design and fund a healthcare plan in a week
 I really do. The major difference between us and Congress would be that we would have no underlying motive to maintain the status quo as a cash cow for campaign funds, letting that become the overriding concern that all current plans contort to allow (excluding the "off the table" single payer option).

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The twenty best thinkers at the DUmp could not find each other's ass if they used all forty hands.

DUmmy Mythsaje, coach's erstwhile raggamuffin protege, surrounded in his bleak flat by cartons of unsold dragon stories, continues his downward spiral by making a nonsensical comment on a comically stupid thread:
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Mythsaje  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jul-17-09 09:45 AM
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2. Probably right... 
Particularly since that same group probably could've relieved NOLA in a matter of a few hours.

DUmmy Mythsaje dearly wants to be included in the Golden Twenty, but has unfortunately fouled his nest the past few days.

DUmmy xchrom is obviously a Lousy Freeper Troll who is banking on the DUmmies' being consistently unable to detect sarcasm unless it's indicated by their stupid little sign:
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xchrom  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jul-17-09 09:55 AM
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11. we have some brilliant people posting here -- so i concur.
i know when i wander in the economy forum -- i am amazed at some who post there.


DUmmy timeforpeace, also an obvious LFT, joins in the mockery:
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timeforpeace (840 posts)      Fri Jul-17-09 11:45 AM
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19. There is no complex issue that a group from here could not solve.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss DUmp Brilliance
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2009, 12:02:47 PM »
Damn.

I'm trying, in my head, to remember 20 great minds from among the primitives.

As desperately as I try, I can't even come up with one.

Damn.

There's got to be at least.....one.

Somewhere in there.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 12:15:12 PM »
Damn these idiots are stuck on stupid................
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Re: DUmmies Discuss DUmp Brilliance
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 12:15:59 PM »
Their 20 most "brilliant" first need to teach the other 4980 or so how to maintain a checkbook or not misuse credit cards.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss DUmp Brilliance
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2009, 12:19:26 PM »
The problem here is arrogance, and its common to democrats and liberals. They all think they can manage the economy, the health system, the schools, etc, better than millions of free people acting on their own. Robert McNamara did the same thing with the Vietnam War. All these people are "the best and the brightest," in their own minds, and they cannot understand why we don't all see it.

But the end result is always a great mess.

Then the next generation of liberals comes along, and thinks the lessons of history are not that social engineering always fails, but that the early efforts just need some minor adjustments. And they, Harvard educated as they are, are just the people to make them. THIS time, it will all fall very neatly into place.

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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2009, 01:28:28 PM »
Shiite! That ain't nothing. I can guess the plan in less than 10 seconds....

TAX THE RICH.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2009, 01:45:50 PM »
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Re: DUmmies Discuss DUmp Brilliance
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2009, 02:25:00 PM »
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I think 20 of the better thinkers from this site could design and fund a healthcare plan in a week

Yeah.  And my teenage son thinks he knows everything.

Cut the "we're brilliant" nonsense.  You're not and it only makes you look more stupid than you already are when you claim to be.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss DUmp Brilliance
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2009, 04:19:21 PM »
I have a plan for you,

Almost Nothing.

Reduce everyone to a low cost catastrophic insurance only plan --Cancer - broken bones - deep wounds, dangerous illnesses... Shouldn't cost more than 1000/yr. per person - probably closer to 500-600 a year.

Basic services, regular checkups, prescriptions, co-pays, x-rays/CAT scans/MRI etc. not considered catastrophic not included. Allow people to shop around to get things like X-Rays done. Waiting rooms would empty out because people would stop going to the doctor's for a hangnail. -- therefore cost per item drops.

There. How hard was that ?

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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2009, 04:22:00 PM »
I have a plan for you,

Almost Nothing.

Reduce everyone to a low cost catastrophic insurance only plan --Cancer - broken bones - deep wounds, dangerous illnesses... Shouldn't cost more than 1000/yr. per person - probably closer to 500-600 a year.

Basic services, regular checkups, prescriptions, co-pays, x-rays/CAT scans/MRI etc. not considered catastrophic not included. Allow people to shop around to get things like X-Rays done. Waiting rooms would empty out because people would stop going to the doctor's for a hangnail. -- therefore cost per item drops.

There. How hard was that ?
I'd buy that for a dollar.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss DUmp Brilliance
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2009, 04:26:16 PM »



This is why they are DUmmies.

Let us suppose that they form the greatest, best health care funding program in the history of the world.

It is just awesome. It could lead to all sorts of medical advancements! but......

They voted for idiots who are about to make sure nobody can join it.

That is why we oppose ObamaCare.

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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2009, 04:57:06 PM »
I'd buy that for a dollar.

Of course - the current insurance system is a scam. Lets say you go to the doctor, complaining of wrist pain. insurance leaves you with a $10 co-pay, the doctor then sends you to get a half-dozen X-Rays at $1500 a pop, then determines its a sprain, and prescribes for you some heavy-duty anti-inflammatory, where your insurance Co-Pay has you dish out 5 bucks for the meds.

So, you spend $15 out of pocket, and the insurance is billed give or take 12 thousand bucks for your boo-boo. Which, of course means everyone's insurance is going to go up to cover, plus extra to make a profit for the insurance company. At 15 or 20 dollars out of pocket, its easy to go to the doctor for anything and everything that ails you.

Whereas if it weren't for the insurance, Joe Consumer would have taken some over the counter Advil, and put his wrist on ice, spending less than 15 bucks, and saving that 12K. Joe Consumer would have also left that appointment slot open for someone who actually needs it. If lots of people stop going to the doctor's office for little things, the office price will come down to attract new patients.

If Joe actually felt that there may be more to it than a sprain, he would spend a couple hundred on the appointment, then go to Miskie's House of X-rays and MRIs to get one or two images taken for $199 each, instead of going to the hospital and paying full price. once Joe learns its a sprain, he then gets the ice bag and the Advil instead of the prescription painkiller. So, Joe spends about 600 bucks, which in many cases is less than what one pays per month on insurance when one considers their contribution and what their job contributes on their behalf.

If it turns out his wrist was actually broken, then the catastrophic coverage kicks in, and he pays nada.