time changing primitive easily fooled by cult leader

[USA4ME]

This is a longer thread where this primitive tries to be clever, but it's so easy to slap these idiots around and discredit what they view to be intelligent.

Here's the full thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6069463&mesg_id=6069463

I remove a portion to exam.

Time for change

The right wingers are now persisting with this idea in their attempt to defeat meaningful health care reform. They want us to believe that government health care or government provided health insurance (such as with Medicare) is inherently inferior to private health insurance. Yet at the same time they whine that government competition with the health insurance industry will drive them out of business. Apparently they think that the American people are too stupid to notice their absurd contradiction.

President Obama did a great job of pointing out this contradiction at a recent town hall meeting. In response to the question “Won’t that (a public option) drive private insurers out of business?”, Obama threw their hypocrisy right back in their face:

"Why would it drive private insurers out of business? If private insurers say that the marketplace provides the best quality healthcare, if they tell us that they're offering a good deal, then why is it that the government – which they say can't run anything – suddenly is going to drive them out of business? That's not logical."

No contradiction at all.  On a level playing field, private industry easily outperforms gov't in the marketplace.  That's not the issue.  Problem is the gov't can (and will) drive them out of business because the gov't can change the rules so that private industry can no longer be competitive.  The opposite, private industry changing the rules to drive gov't run entities out of business, cannot take place.

So simple to see how and where Dear Leader lies and twists the truth, except to idiots like the time changing primitive who are unable to think for themselves.

I, or any number of us, could go through the whole primitive thread and slap it down one silly point after another.  The primitives are unable to do that without some mindless bureaucrat looking over their shoulder to tell them how it should be understood.  So immature and stupid, the primitives.

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[Chris_]

The government does not have to turn a profit, private business does...this is enough to driveout most of the private insurers.

[The Village Idiot]

The bill already forces private insurers to not descriminate against pre-existing conditions. So wait until you need surgery and THEN get insurance and make them pay for the surgery. How is that NOT putting them out of business?

I have a feeling that government will send those with pre-existing conditions to private insurers.

Oh and government gets heavily SIBSIDIZED... how is that in any way "fair competition"?

[Texacon]

What business does the government have of being in ANY business?!

I don't want their retirement plan;

I don't want their insurance;

I don't want their oversight;

I don't want anything from the federal government.  I expect more from my state and local who have feet on the ground.  All I want from my federal government is; National defense and mediation of disputes between the states. 

KC

[jukin]

The government does not have to turn a profit, private business does...this is enough to driveout most of the private insurers.

No it is WELL beyond that. Government can always stick their fingers into someone's pocket without their consent.  Private companies can't do that.

[Texacon]

Nationalized healthcare will be just like social security .... it will be mandatory and the 'customers' be damned.  If anyone can't see that they are an idiot.

KC

[Lacarnut]

Nationalized healthcare will be just like social security .... it will be mandatory and the 'customers' be damned.  If anyone can't see that they are an idiot.

KC

Plus, it will be more expensive. We all know that the government can not run a whore house efficiently. The quality of care will be less to pay for all the freeloaders; fewer doctors will specialize, research and equipment development will be curtailed.

[The Village Idiot]

What business does the government have of being in ANY business?!

That is why we formed the United Citizens Nation! bring down the state!

http://unitedcitizen.blogspot.com

Its 67% serious

[AllosaursRus]

OK you idiot Neanderthal, name one thing the government has run well! Sure as hell isn't SS or medicare/medicaid. Sure isn't the vet's healthcare. Name one program these "guardians of the people" run with any kind of efficiency!

Oh, and do ya suppose all our Reps and Senators are going to opt into this "National Healthcare Sysytem? Hell NO! Wonder why that is?

[thundley4]

OK you idiot Neanderthal, name one thing the government has run well! Sure as hell isn't SS or medicare/medicaid. Sure isn't the vet's healthcare. Name one program these "guardians of the people" run with any kind of efficiency!

Oh, and do ya suppose all our Reps and Senators are going to opt into this "National Healthcare Sysytem? Hell NO! Wonder why that is?

That right there should be the basis of any healthcare reform. All federal employees, both elected and unelected, (meaning all union members, also), should be bound under the government plan.