We May Become Terrorists

[Thor]

Political opposition is not a hate crime
Examiner Editorial
July 10, 2009
Attorney General Eric Holder talks with Deputy Attorney General for Legislative affairs Judith Applebaum on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, June 25, 2009, prior to his testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on hate crimes legislation. (AP Photo/Harry Hamburg)

What's wrong with this picture? The federal government spends billions on homeland security, but apparently can't stop foreigners from illegally crossing the border or overstaying their visas. The Obama administration wants to bring violent terrorists captured overseas to the mainland and close the military detention center at Guantanamo Bay. Yet in the latest bizarre twist, legislation quietly making its way through Congress would give the White House power to categorize political opponents as hate groups and even send Americans to detention centers on abandoned military bases.

Rep. Alcee Hastings - the impeached Florida judge Nancy Pelosi tried to install as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee until her own party members rebelled - introduced an amendment to the defense authorization bill that gives Attorney General Eric Holder sole discretion to label groups that oppose government policy on guns, abortion, immigration, states' rights, or a host of other issues. In a June 25 speech on the House floor, Rep. Trent Franks, R-AZ, blasted the idea: "This sounds an alarm for many of us because of the recent shocking and offensive report released by the Department of Homeland Security which labeled, arguably, a majority of Americans as 'extremists.'"

Another Hastings bill (HR 645) authorizes $360 million in 2009 and 2010 to set up "not fewer than six national emergency centers on military installations" capable of housing "a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster." But Section 2 (b) 4 allows the Secretary of Homeland Security to use the camps "to meet other appropriate needs" - none of which are specified. This is the kind of blank check that Congress should never, ever sign.

It's not paranoid to be extremely wary of legislation that would give two unelected government officials power to legally declare someone a "domestic terrorist" and send them to a government-run camp. After all, the federal government has done exactly this sort of thing before. During World War II, more than 120,000 law-abiding Japanese Americans were rounded up by the government and confined for four years in ten internment camps surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards. Joy Kogawa chronicled the trauma her family experienced firsthand under FDR's executive order: "Families were made to move in two hours. Abandoned everything, leaving pets and possessions at gun point..."

It was wrong then, and it would be doubly wrong now should members of Congress somehow fail to learn from past mistakes.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Political-opposition-is-not-a-hate-crime-7949121-50392297.html

[rich_t]

So it continues..

[Thor]

I'm wondering when Americans will have the balls to take a stand?? Are we willing to wait until 2010, so that this Administration can ramrod  multiple unconstitutional issues through?? I'm not. Pitchforks and tar and feathers might work.

[5412]

I'm wondering when Americans will have the balls to take a stand?? Are we willing to wait until 2010, so that this Administration can ramrod  multiple unconstitutional issues through?? I'm not. Pitchforks and tar and feathers might work.

Hi,

Where the hell are the democrats?  They see the country going down the drain and they follow like lemmings.

5412

[DumbAss Tanker]

Good thing Napolitano and Obama declared the "Global War on Terror" was over, then!  I guess we won...?

 

[The Village Idiot]

So it continues..

People around me still think I am nuts when I tell them the things being proposed and pass. "That won't happen" they say, even after its already happened.

[Thor]

Here is a reply to an email I sent out from a RABID 0bamabot:

This is part of the reason I am so disgusted with the right.
This is propaganda and fear mongering at it's worst.
If you want me to be afraid of something like this, tell me the CONSERVATIVES are trying to do it, and you might have a chance in hell of convincing me.
Of course, even THEN, I would have to be shown how THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION SUDDENLY VANISHED.
 
I WAS A DELEGATE FOR BARACK OBAMA.
I AM DAMNED PROUD OF THE FACT I WAS.
 
YOU WANT SOMETHING TO WORRY ABOUT?
 
 
The Republican Party is being destroyed from WITHIN.

 

1. Karl Rove and his “turn political discourse into an open sewer” tactics have turned a lot of people OFF.

2. The religious fanatics still have too much power.

3. The bigots still haven't been encouraged strongly enough to HIT THE ROAD!

4. The party STILL hasn't acknowledged that the Bush administration

 PROBABLY COMMITTED WAR CRIMES & DEFINITELY VIOLATED THE BILL OF RIGHTS.

If these problems are not fixed immediately,

   THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL DIE.

WHY?

There will be a mass exodus of moderates to

 Become independents

 Become Libertarians

 Become Democrats [a few]

The process has already begun; only 20% identify themselves as Republicans in polls now.

What is left of the Republican Party at the end of this process will drown in its own bile.

 

YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE THIS TOO:

 

President Obama has prevented the 2nd Great Depression.

This is the single greatest economic miracle of all time & that is no exaggeration!

[Leading economic indicators like new housing starts, factory orders and new mortgage activity prove it.]

And now, consumer spending [70% of the economy] is also up.

Oh, and those banks paid back the TARP money early WITH INTEREST!

 

[I know, employment, right?  That is the LAST thing to recover, ask any economist.  Be patient]

 

 

He is winning back America's foreign friends that Bush alienated

He is getting us out of Iraq, the wrong war

He is putting assets back into Afghanistan, the RIGHT war.

He is shutting down Guantanamo.

He is ending torture, making sure the world knows it.

He is DOING HIS JOB



He even told GM & Chrysler to shape up or ship out.

 

All this in less than his first 6 months!

 

Soon, we will all have health care too!

 

ALL of our presidents should be so awful.


If you wouldn't mind, I would just as soon not get emails like this one again.
Of course, if you WANT to see my response, I have no problem discussing legitimate issues, but blatant fear mongering I can do without.
 
David
Dallas TX

He's pretty much on target about the GOP. As far as the "good" that 0bama has done...... well.... 

[The Village Idiot]

We might be terrorists

legislation quietly making its way through Congress would give the White House power to categorize political opponents as hate groups and even send Americans to detention centers on abandoned military bases.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Political-opposition-is-not-a-hate-crime-7949121-50392297.html

don't worry, Obama has an APP for that.

[Chris_]

We might be terrorists

legislation quietly making its way through Congress would give the White House power to categorize political opponents as hate groups and even send Americans to detention centers on abandoned military bases.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Political-opposition-is-not-a-hate-crime-7949121-50392297.html

don't worry, Obama has an APP for that.

If I'm going to be identified as the enemy by "my own government" (in reality, I don't claim the 536 retards in Washington or their executive branch minions as "my government" anymore:  the government they have established is for the furtherance of their own wants, goals and objectives, not the people's), then perhaps....

Naw; I ain't gonna say it.  Why give the enemy a warning.

[5412]

We might be terrorists

legislation quietly making its way through Congress would give the White House power to categorize political opponents as hate groups and even send Americans to detention centers on abandoned military bases.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Political-opposition-is-not-a-hate-crime-7949121-50392297.html

don't worry, Obama has an APP for that.

Hi,

Wow this entire thing really disturbs me.  Speaking out at a Tea Party does not make one a terrorist.  Being well armed and prepared to protect your home and family does not make you a terrorist.  A terrorist does random acts of violence to do just that "terrorize" the poplulation, targeting innocent women and children.  I seriously doubt that the vast majority of Americans would ever consider doing that.

What is truly frightening is this.  The "thought" police should not have the power detain you because they "suspect" you might do something because you disagree with them.  Sounds more like Castro every day if you ask me.

Taking to the streets and making you feelings known is not terrorism, if so then MLk should be classified as a terrorist.

regards,
5412

[Mr Mannn]

I'm wondering when Americans will have the balls to take a stand?? Are we willing to wait until 2010, so that this Administration can ramrod  multiple unconstitutional issues through?? I'm not. Pitchforks and tar and feathers might work.

At this moment no one has felt the sting of consequences. There are no higher taxes. Life is still pretty much the same.
Pro liberal news has driven the casual viewer away, and now people don't watch the news.

Until the sting occurs, until utility bills mean no heat this Christmas, until the chickens come home to roost...'the people' will continue on in bliss.

Note that no one is buying or traveling. People fear unemployment. People are saving their money.
Some people are getting it. And they're being watched by the FBI at the Tea Parties. Lord O is also watching them, and trembling.