Pedro Picasso knows everything one needs to know

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5964731

Oh my.

Pedro Picasso.

This bonfire's been up a while, but thus far only a "K&R" comment from another primitive.

Atman  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-01-09 08:51 AM
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Everything you need to know about why CONservatives hate public health care

From a rather surprising source...the Wall Street Journal.

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A government that works, some conservatives fear, is dangerous stuff. It gives people ideas. Universal health care isn't just a bad idea for their buddies in the insurance business; it's a gateway drug to broader state involvement in the economy and hence a possible doomsday scenario for conservatism itself. As two fellows of the Ethics and Public Policy Center fretted in the Weekly Standard in May, "health care is the key to public enmeshment in ballooning welfare states, and passage of ObamaCare would deal a heavy blow to the conservative enterprise in American politics."

On the other hand, government fails constantly when conservatives run it because making it work would be, for many of those conservatives, to traduce the very laws of nature. Besides, as we can now see, bungling Katrina recovery or Pentagon procurement pays conservatives huge dividends. It gives them potent ammunition to use when the liberals have returned and are proposing another one of their grand schemes to reform health care.

This is the perverse incentive that is slowly remaking the GOP into the Snafu Party. And in those commercials and those proclamations we should also discern a warning: That even if Democrats manage to set up a solid health-care program, conservatives will do their best, once they have regained power, to drop it down the same chute they did the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Maybe they will appoint a tobacco lobbyist to run the thing. Maybe they will starve it for funds. Or antagonize its work force. And as it collapses they will hand themselves their greatest propaganda victory of all. They will survey the ruins and chide, "You didn't really think government could work, did you?"

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124640443679876503.html...

I dunno.

I checked Pedro Picasso's link, and he's not distorting what's there, which is highly unusual for a primitive.  I imagine the columnist who wrote that piece follows the 0bama party line, though.

[JohnnyReb]

"And as it collapses".....in the DUmmies own words. They know it's going to fail but are root'n for it anyway. I guess they figure they'll ride the crest of the wave and be dead by the time healthcare final dies.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Yes, DUmmies...please lock absolute total control of the health system into the government's hands...

...and wait for Diebold to put us back into power.

 

[USA4ME]

Written by Thomas Frank, big time lib, one who wrote "What's the Matter With Kansas?" that the primitives fawned over in 2004.  Guy's a total anti-America whack job.

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[Karin]

This is how one of the commenters over there put it: 

This is the token weekly liberal columnist for the WSJ. I've long since wondered how this guy qualified for the op-ed page. Difference of opinion or not, he's a mess. Every week.

But then it dawned on me: this really is the best that liberals have to offer in the way of commentary.

No wonder they have so few journals of intellectual thought, and don't do well with talk radio.

[franksolich]

This is how one of the commenters over there put it: 

I thought it might be something like that, madam, a token far-left-wing liberal on the staff of a left-leaning newspaper.

[delilahmused]

Yes, DUmmies...please lock absolute total control of the health system into the government's hands...

...and wait for Diebold to put us back into power.

 

I honestly don't hold out much hope. As long as they have acorn and are willing to use the Gregoire/Franken method of counting votes they'll continue to win any election they damn well please. What can we do...when republicans do fight (rare for them to find their spines I know) the courts side with the dems...in the WA election the judge even admitted the results were hinky.

Cindie

[DumbAss Tanker]

You know, I wouldn't really object to a reasonably-scoped government program to help the truly uninsurable.  Also the current system of socking all the patients with jobs for their own costs plus all those of every bum, vagrant, derelict and welfare queen (who routinely go to emergency rooms for any owie because they can't be turned away) seems to make the least sense since the cost ends up being absorbed by a few productive citizens who are in distress rather than spreading it wider over the tax base, and it has driven emergency medical care costs to insane levels.  However, I just don't trust Obama and a Democratic Congress to do anything reasonable in scope or cost to address the real problems here.