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Offline franksolich

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primitive notices something bizarre
« on: June 24, 2009, 07:26:26 AM »
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8 track mind  (591 posts)      Sun Jun-07-09 11:32 AM
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Ok this is bizzarre

My neighbor has a 1972 Chevy pick up street rod. this Friday he filled up with 93 octane super unleaded at a major chain gas dealer, with the truck running fine. I should state that the truck is mechanically new. I built the engine for him and he rebuilt the entire fuel system; pump, lines, gas tank, sender, and a brand new Edelbrock 650cfm carb.

The following Saturday the truck would not start. Underneath the truck there were pools of liquid that had bleached the concrete driveway bright white. All of the brand new rubber fuel lines have been eaten alive within a 24 hour period, and most of the seals in the Carburetor have been eaten alive as well.

The gas that's in the tank smells very strange. It smells like old school bug killer and it evaporates extremely fast, faster than any kind of gasoline that i've ever seen. It doesn't smell like E-85 or some blend of Alcohol. I did a quick test with the mystery liquid with baking soda and it didn't react, so that rules out some sort of acid.

In all my years of gear heading I've never seen anything like this. I've never seen anything go after rubber that fast. Does anyone out there have any idea what made it into his gas tank?

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DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jun-07-09 06:49 PM
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1. Too much ethanol in the blend most cars can sustain about 12% before it begins to eat away at the hoses and rubber components (UNLESS it's E85 ready). The smell is probably the after effect from the reaction (and if the pump is in tank, it's done). It is probably 25% or more in this particular load.

Take a sample and CALL the owners of the chain, record the date and time you got the fuel, and ask for an explanation. There is also a chance that the rubber seals in the valve train are destroyed, along with any other seals made of synthetic rubber.

You have a huge problem and you are going to have to flush the fuel system before using the car again.

The brain damaged primitive has a reading comprehension problem.

It's a truck, not a car.
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Re: primitive notices something bizarre
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2009, 07:45:51 AM »
This is all far beyond me; I'm no mechanic.  When I was in LE a friend used to put mothballs in his cruisers tank to boost the octane level.  I never knew if that actually worked or what damage it might cause.
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Re: primitive notices something bizarre
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2009, 08:28:17 AM »
It's a conspiracy btween "*"s oil, Alcohol,  and rubber buddies.....they're making money going and coming.
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Re: primitive notices something bizarre
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2009, 08:33:44 AM »
Quote from: whiffleball on June 24, 2009, 07:45:51 AM
This is all far beyond me; I'm no mechanic.  When I was in LE a friend used to put mothballs in his cruisers tank to boost the octane level.  I never knew if that actually worked or what damage it might cause.

You may have stumbled onto the cause of the DUmmies problem.
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Ray: Another type of mothball which COULD potentially hurt things is made of dichlorobenzene. That won't improve your car's performance either, but since it throws chlorine into the mix, it can produce HCl as a byproduct when burned.

Tom: For those of you who don't remember your high school chemistry, HCl is hydrochloric acid, the stuff that burns through almost anything it touches. And pumping HCl through your engine and exhaust system is probably not very good for its longevity, Donald.
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HCl will affect some rubber and plastics, and the chlorine would definitely make the gas smeel funny.
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Re: primitive notices something bizarre
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2009, 10:11:17 AM »
Somebody screwed up at the tank farm where they fill up the tankers...............however, if this were true, why would he be the only one? Woulden't his buddies truck be one of many??






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Re: primitive notices something bizarre
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 10:45:31 AM »
All refined fuel is colorless.  They give it a color once it's refined so they'll know what it is.  For instance, most auto fuels have an orangish/rustic tint.  AvFuel for small planes (100 LowLead) has a light blue tint.  If you know the color of the fuel, you can determine the octane content.

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