Dummies think they know the constitutionIdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-20-09 10:29 AM
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Liberals have Failed America.
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 10:31 AM by IdaBriggs
Bluntly, we have nearly half the country who either a) can't read, b) can't think, or c) flunked/dropped out of high school to the point where they don't understand
THE CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
And since we are the party that believes in educating the masses, this is obviously our fault.
Can I make a recording of this? After all the NEA is one of a few orgs that literally have the heart of the democratic party in their hands. You are really saying that public school teachers, a key democratic constituency, are responsible for the abysmal state of miseducation in America?
Half of the country does not understand 'diplomacy'. They do not understand 'nuance.' They do not understand the purpose of government as providing service to the people (meaning them), run by them, accountable to them, FOR THEM. They do not get that they aren't members of the Rich 100 Families, and actually will see Tax Cuts, Jobs, and improvements to their local infrastructure under the current administration.
Obama and his rats haven't offered a single tax cut. They have increased spending in ways no Republican would dare that won't create jobs, lower taxes, or do anything either meaningful or helpful.
Most of them don't even know what the hell "infrastructure" means.
Brought to you by the afore mentioned NEA, right?
They are incapable of critical thinking when listening to Right Wing Nonsense (and sometimes left, to be fair).
So, anything you disagree with is nonsense? Is that the excuse you never use to never listen to a conservative's argument?
And they are a public embarrassment before the rest of the world.
Read, they demand to work for their living and keep their guns, unlike us enlightened socialists.
Water boarding. Warrant-less wire tapping. Poisoned tomatoes, spinach, peanut products, etc. New Orleans. Health care for only the rich/employed. Homeless children. 10% unemployment in More Than Michigan.
So much stupid here.
Liberals have ruined America because we didn't make sure that they were educated in high school to NOT be idiots. And furthermore, we didn't make sure they knew to SHUT THE F*CK UP before talking like idiots in public.
This is the third time in this OP that this poster has indicted the liberal NEA for failing to educate kids. It must be looking for one of those oh so elusive tombstones.
I am going to make the following pledge: whenever I am confronted with an idiot who starts spouting off on right wing talking points without having a flaming clue as to what the words they are saying actually mean (and yes, I have some of these folks in my life), I am going to immediately inquire as to whether they flunked/dropped out of high school, and then explain to them that if they had paid attention in school, they wouldn't sound like total idiots.
Read, I intend to increase the number of bouncies I post... OK, just make sure you up the quality, they've been really bad for the last year or so.
Whenever one of those stupid right wing e-mails is forwarded to me, I am going to start sending excerpts from a high school civics text book back, explaining that since they missed that day in school, its time they actually read it.
She could try and find out why there was no Welfare as she sees it for the first one-hundred twenty or so years of the republic. Then she would find out what the founders actually meant by welfare.
Yes, its insulting to rub reality into the noses of the foolish, but I am ready to move on to the next stage of cleaning up the disaster that letting idiots be in charge has caused -- and yes, for me that includes prosecution of crimes, since I don't think 'ignorance of the law' (Geneva convention included) is an excuse for crimes-against-humanity.
I agree. You should go read up on the Geneva convention and the Articles of War and come back and tell us what it says, however that would ruin your ignorance of what they actually say.
And just as a reminder:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Thank you.
Yet you twist the word justice to mean mostly that you get whatever you want, defame our soldiers at every turn, think welfare means supporting the lazy, and generally care nothing for liberty.
On to the lynch mob
kentuck (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-20-09 10:31 AM
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1. Liberalism has failed because...
it was defeated by the Mainstream Media and the corporate elites. It was never tried.
Yes, because the mainstream media hasn't actively supported every liberal and attacked every conservative. Oops!
NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-20-09 10:33 AM
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2. you can lead a repuke fundie to water, but you cant make them think
Our corporate masters dont want us to be able to think, so they foster the idiots with wedge issues, junk food, and bad cable tv to keep us dumb, fat, and mentally lazy.
You can lead a liberal to water, but if you try to teach him to fish, that's oppression.
BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-20-09 10:35 AM
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3. Actually, all you've shown is that liberalism hasn't pitched a shutout....
And in terms of history, we started off down 2000-to-0. Comebacks take time.
Well, it could be that your daffy ideas have failed everytime and everywhere they are tried.
sandnsea (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-20-09 10:38 AM
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6. Okay, I love the textbook idea
In fact one of my book ideas is "High School For Dummies", or everything every high school graduate ought to know. Like the difference between "lose" and "loose" for chrissake. And of course, where the budget really goes, the history of the filibuster, how to discern fact from opinion, all that good stuff.
But responding to people with info from a textbook, instead of a newspaper, might well be the way to get them to accept facts they otherwise choose to ignore.
Well, that's easy. You see "lose" is an action, such as losing a a game, it's noun form would be loser, your typical male DUmmie. "Loose" is an apt desciption of the average female DUmmie. The budget goes to a lot of things it really shouldn't. The modern filibuster was started by democrats to block a fair employment practices comittee in 1917 to combat discrimination in the work place. It's a fact that Obama bowed to a king, and your opinion that he didn't. Is that enough knowledge for you DUmmie?
Deja Q (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-20-09 10:39 AM
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7. Leaders can only do so much. We need to play our own part. Everyone, please read:
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 10:40 AM by Deja Q
We have people in the streets. exemplified by mainstream media garbage such as "Cam'ron", who can't be bothered to call the cops when they see a crime. What a slimeball. Anybody else recall his presence on "60 Minutes"? What an antisocial scumbag. He thinks it's "snitching". At some point, it's more than just something toddlers in a sandbox do, "sir"...
Then don't bitch about the crime. Maybe "Cam'ron" will be next. Ironic if that actually happens.
If I see reckless driving on the highway, I call 911.
It really can be as simple as that. Even just calling the authorities is a start. If there's a logical reason, the driver from my reckless driving call-in can explain. If the driver is drunk or stoned or willfully trying to cause harm, the driver gets locked up.
On edit: "Accidents" is a non-sequitur as said driver is being malicious. "Accidents" cannot apply as a term. My error.
Who is it that goes into these communities and tells them all cops are racist and out to "keep them down"? It isn't conservatives.
Beer Snob-50 (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-20-09 10:42 AM
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8. i don't think that ALL of the are uneducated..
let's face it, rw talking points are simple points (people taking your money is badddddddd), don't take a lot of thought. i think they are basically just lazy (still pretty bad)
:rotf:Let me get this straight. Hardworking conservative busts his ass on the job all day and thinks the government taking his money to feed the lazy is bad. Lazy liberal gets out of bed at noon and whines to the government that the conservative has more than him.
ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-20-09 10:43 AM
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9. Don't see how its our fault...
Since nothing we think of ever gets tried.
"Yes, its insulting to rub reality into the noses of the foolish"
I wonder where it is written where education has to be "easy and fun". I'm sure I've never seen it. Not sure why this should be of any concern to you.
So now you deny the HEADSTART program, Social Security, Medicare/aid, and a vast nearly endless litany of other liberal/statist programs? Just for warning DUmmies, insulting another human doesn't make them more prone to give a hoot what you say.
pnwmom (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-20-09 10:43 AM
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10. People who openly subscribe to liberalism are about 1/3 of the population.
How can they be held responsible for all the failings of America?
Because you think that the government should pamper everybody, convenient for politicians and bureaucrats. Vote buying and corruption is so much easier that way.
IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-20-09 10:55 AM
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12. "And since we are the party that believes in educating the masses, this is obviously our fault."
Its only half sarcasm. An educated populace is a liberal dream, as we believe that educated people make better decisions/problem solve.
Unfortunately, we've got folks who can't distinguish between fact vs. opinion. (And to be fair, my posting is pure opinion!) LOL!
Read, a brainwashed populace is a liberal's dream. Then they can get away with whatever they want. Unfortunately, some people look at facts and form a different opinion.
Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-20-09 11:10 AM
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14. Here's the flaw in your premise.
You assume that people "a) can't read, b) can't think, or c) flunked/dropped out of high school to the point where they don't understand THE CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES."
I think they understand it just fine. They simply don't want to follow it because they would rather live in a pseudo-religious dictatorship. It makes it easier for them to pick on the people they don't like if they don't have to treat people as if they have rights under the law.
Read, I'd like to live in a socialist dicatatorship, but the right keeps tripping that up. Why? Since I want to live in a dictatorship everyone must. So, if they don't want to live in my sort of dictatorship they must want a differnt dictatorship. Since I want to oppress them with my dictatorship, they must want to oppress me with theirs. The evil fundies.
Arcana (11 posts) Mon Apr-20-09 11:25 AM
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15. The right wing message is short, simple, and short-sighted
Which is enough for those tainted most by (Consumerist) American culture. Also it's not just that the education system failed them, but their whole family who raises them as rethugs from day 1. You can't fight that easily.
Read, Americans like to buy stuff and we can't have that. Also those Americans that don't abort their kids tend to instill values in them which is evil, since liberals are the only ones who should be allowed to do that.
I'm not a psychologist, but you don't have to be to read between the lines on that thread.