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mountain man primitive polls the primitives on threats
« on: January 08, 2009, 10:23:20 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4788969

I dunno if anybody else has noticed this, but it seems to me the mountain man primitive is showing his age, getting soft and liquidy in the head.

He's no spring chicken, but still--

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ThomWV  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-08-09 10:28 AM
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Poll question: The greatest threat to the United States is:

We face many threats, some are greater than others. In my mind the greatest threat we face is:

Poll result (41 votes) 

The Military Industrial Complex  (21 votes, 51%) 

The Religious Right  (3 votes, 7%)

The Domestic Health Care/Pharmaceutical Complex  (1 votes, 2%) 

Insurance companies  (0 votes, 0%) 

The Financial System  (4 votes, 10%)

Increased militarization of our civilian police  (1 votes, 2%) 

Our own intelligence apparatus  (0 votes, 0%) 

Other  (11 votes, 27%) 

Moo  (0 votes, 0%)

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glowing  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-08-09 10:29 AM
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1. Money runs the rest.

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slackmaster  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-08-09 10:30 AM
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2. Our ongoing refusal to fully adopt and embrace the Metric System

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ThomWV  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-08-09 10:32 AM
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5. The religious right will be the religious right no matter if there is $ involved or not

crazy people do not react to pennys.

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Old Crusoe  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-08-09 10:31 AM
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3. Very good choices on the list. A mixed brew of most of them would be a good answer.

I'd throw in the complacency of our citizenry, as opposed to the informed and enlightened citizenry envisioned by Madison and Jefferson.

More Lincolns and fewer Nixons would be a useful starting point for high-profile public officials. What Barack Obama did after college in Chicago would be another model for less-high-profile folks.

I think we get to an informed citizenry faster by asking more of our school students than we currently do.

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ThomWV  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-08-09 10:33 AM
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7. I thought of that one but couldn't find a good way to say in a couple of words

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Old Crusoe  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-08-09 10:37 AM
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10. Hi, ThomWV. I wonder if that is why we as progressives are so instantaneously annoyed by people like Lieberman and Evan Bayh and Ben Nelson, etc. -- because we see our citizenship in more urgent terms and are long-dedicated to the common improvement for all, and their actions so often reinforce the push against us.

And it may also be why we are quick and true in championing those who represent that common purpose. When Ted Kennedy, for example, blasts the Bush administration on health care and minimum wage on the floor of the Senate, we progressives collectively nod our heads around the village fire.

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ThomWV  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-08-09 11:10 AM
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19. That is a mighty good way to put it

Your choice of words is singularly beautiful and hopefully widely appreciated.

I like to go back to basics in my thought process. If I can find the first and then hold it in my mind it often adds clarity to what follows. So I ask myself what is Government and where does it get legitimacy and power? Once I have the answer I hold it up to everything else to see if muster is met.

The first answer I've come up with is that Government is simply people come together for common purpose. I hold that in my mind when I see the right rail against it. Which do they despise, common purpose or people coming together? The answer to the second comes from the first. The only power Government can have is that which we give it and as such we are master and it is slave - not the other way around.

Those two questions and answers are the sieve all of my political opinion have to pass.

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Jokerman  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-08-09 10:35 AM
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9. The Republican Party.

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yibbehobba (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-08-09 10:41 AM
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11. I'd say other.

In the long term, global warming might be it. I think the growth of the national debt is also going to become a very serious problem at some point. (It's a problem already, but one with a slow burning fuse.)

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Donnachaidh  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-08-09 10:43 AM
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12. can we have an all of the above?

You've listed the big ones, and it's the way those are set up is what's killing the middle class.

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handmade34 (46 posts)      Thu Jan-08-09 10:53 AM
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13. duh?

apathetic, ignorant citizens

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NNN0LHI  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-08-09 11:01 AM
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16. You didn't list it

Private mercenary armies is the correct answer by the way.

They would kill any of us for money without blinking an eye.

You know, after copying-and-pasting about 67% of this bonfire, I'm now left wondering why? 
apres moi, le deluge

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Re: mountain man primitive polls the primitives on threats
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2009, 10:47:14 AM »
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slackmaster  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-08-09 10:30 AM
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2. Our ongoing refusal to fully adopt and embrace the Metric System

You just shouldn`t be allowed in public if you are that stupid.

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Re: mountain man primitive polls the primitives on threats
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2009, 10:54:33 AM »
You just shouldn`t be allowed in public if you are that stupid.

Or if you are, it should be at the end of a leash.
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Re: mountain man primitive polls the primitives on threats
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2009, 01:15:47 PM »
"Death by small-minded, parochial bureaucratic overregulation," "Placing security-based legal constraints above personal freedom," and "Teaching idealistic lies and nonsequiturs instead of anything funcitonal or real in schools" don't seem to be on there, though they seem to have come much closer to killing England and Germany than anything else on the list....
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Re: mountain man primitive polls the primitives on threats
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2009, 01:48:08 PM »
Oh for heaven's sake! That conversation between Old Crusoe & ThomWV was the most mind-numbingly stupid mutual masturbation, pat on the back conversation I've seen in a while. And they said exactly zip. It's like watching 2 beagles try to have phone sex with a doughnut.

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Re: mountain man primitive polls the primitives on threats
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 01:52:23 PM »
Oh for heaven's sake! That conversation between Old Crusoe & ThomWV was the most mind-numbingly stupid mutual masturbation, pat on the back conversation I've seen in a while. And they said exactly zip. It's like watching 2 beagles try to have phone sex with a doughnut.

That's why, after I went through all the time and trouble, and depreciation on the computer keyboard, of copying-and-pasting about two-thirds of this bonfire, I asked myself, "'Why?"

But.....as I had already done it, I might as well have posted it.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2009, 02:38:34 PM »
Oh for heaven's sake! That conversation between Old Crusoe & ThomWV was the most mind-numbingly stupid mutual masturbation, pat on the back conversation I've seen in a while. And they said exactly zip. It's like watching 2 beagles try to have phone sex with a doughnut.[/color]

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