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primitives discuss, compare, Kos and Skins's island
« on: December 30, 2008, 03:24:38 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4737147

I dunno what's going on here, but it turns nasty really fast.

I'm rather enamoured of the term "Kostapo."

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davefromqueens (126 posts)        Tue Dec-30-08 11:32 AM
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Democratic Underground Surpasses DailyKos For Entire Week 

Who speaks for the netroots? Who speaks for Democrats? Who speaks for progressives? The answer is no one person. However, the perception of who has power can translate to mega dollars, appearances in the mainstream media, etc..

I have argued, and will continue to argue, that DailyKos' Markos Moulitsas, a few of his front pagers (Dhinmi, Misslaura, BarbinMd, ScoutFinch, etc..) and his cyberbullying Kostapo are as bad for Democrats as Ann Coulter is for Republicans. (I don't mind republicans destroying themselves.) I will further argue that we should do the Democratic Party a huge favor and disown this hateful man (he of supporting death threats against liberal blogger Kathy Sierra and of screw them infamy) now while he has minimal power so that he can go no further and cause no more harm.

His recent bashing of Caroline Kennedy, his recent shameful reference to Democrats as "battered spouses" and numerous other instances of bizarre behavior should be an alarm bell for us real and solid Democrats. (If anyone wants my street creds, voting history, etc... I'll provide it..)

I argue that most progressives and most Democrats dislike Kos because they realize his true nature but often are afraid to say so out of fear. Well extensive googling throughout the web will reaffirm my point but the bigger point can be shown at what is happening at Daily Kos. The site is plummeting and nosediving like the economy under Bush. While sites like DU have stablized the past 6 weeks, Kos keeps going down and down and down.

And now he is below Democratic Underground on a regular basis, something that never happened before until recently.

A check of Alexa rankings shows DU beating Kos for the entire week by nearly 1500 ranking spots.

Now there are plenty of other liberal sites way ahead of Kos, like Huffington Post. But who speaks for the progressive netroots? Well as of now Democratic Underground would rank well ahead of DailyKos in that regard. And I suspect that DK's rankings will continue to plummet, just like MYDD's did for the same reason and that the list of sites will simply keep expanding and expanding.

Why is DU moving up? What are you doing right? Feel free to share.

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cali  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-30-08 11:35 AM
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1. what crap. don't think you can get away with this.

Some of us know you perfectly well from your nutsoid posts over at kos and that you're on an insane vegeance trip when it comes to markos.

"Kostapo". You are completely bonkers.

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davefromqueens (126 posts)        Tue Dec-30-08 11:36 AM
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2. and most people find me quite sane and realize quite well the true nature of the site.

Interesting how you have to call names to defend your guy and I don't.

Who made you a gatekeeper?

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davefromqueens (126 posts)        Tue Dec-30-08 11:48 AM
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10. From the DU Rules 

3. Civility: Treat other members with respect. Do not post personal attacks against other members of this discussion forum.

Feel free to disagree but calling me nutsoid, insane, and bonkers is against the rules of this site. I accept your apology in advance.

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cali  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-30-08 11:52 AM
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13. fine. I apologize for calling you names. let me restate things: your well known little vengeance trip toward markos is well known. It's more than a little bizarre.

I don't appreciate YOU coming here and trying to involve DUers in your one sided war of kos.

And the language you use toward kos and kossacks is completely out of bounds.

Just leave your obsession with destroying kos off DU. Or go away.

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davefromqueens (126 posts)        Tue Dec-30-08 11:57 AM
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16. given that only 2 diaries in 3 months or ever have been about the subject, how are YOU to unilaterally decide what is and what is not appropriate.

I read the rules.

Now you are entitled to disagree with my language about Kos but to say I'm out of bounds is whose call? And it's a legit topic for discussion although I agree it shouldn't be a daily occurrence.

I'm in NYC. Do you know why we've had Republican mayors for 15 years? There is something called a turnoff troll.

Kos is destroying himself with the help of those I mentioned. I'll just keep exposing it.

And why not give exposure to other sites that have surpassed this. Kos was supposedly the Walmart of progressive blogs and now all the Targets are passing him with many more on the way.

Who speaks for the Democratic Party or who is PERCEIVED as speaking for the Democratic Party will go a long way in 2010 and beyond to determining our future. (I say our assuming that you are a Democrat like me who has been registered as one for over 15 years and has never voted Republican for President, Senator, Governor, or Mayor)

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cali  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-30-08 12:01 PM
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18.  you have a personal and weird vendetta going on and you're less than honest about it. You're shit stirring. I have every right to inform people. Sorry you don't like being called on it, but that's life.

It's a big bonfire, and a really nasty one.

The cross-eyed Iowa primitive gets in on it, as does the babbling sister primitive, the one who likes "darky" and "pickaninny" toys.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, Kos and Skins's island
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2008, 03:34:19 PM »
The person behind The Daily Kos, Markos Moulitsas, is one of the most hated person on the Internet. Both sides hate him.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, Kos and Skins's island
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2008, 03:35:57 PM »
The person behind The Daily Kos, Markos Moulitsas, is one of the most hated person on the Internet. Both sides hate him.

Oh.

I was confused, because I thought the primitives and the Kossacks would be natural allies.

I guess not.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, Kos and Skins's island
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 03:40:45 PM »
Oh.

I was confused, because I thought the primitives and the Kossacks would be natural allies.

I guess not.

The Hillary supporters really hate The Daily Kos.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, Kos and Skins's island
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2008, 03:41:55 PM »
There's not a dime's worth of difference between the DailyKooks and the DUmmies, they're both filled with rage and hatred.  I'm betting there's a sizable amount from each site that posts on the other.

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Re: primitives discuss, compare, Kos and Skins's island
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2008, 03:45:34 PM »
There's not a dime's worth of difference between the DailyKooks and the DUmmies, they're both filled with rage and hatred.  I'm betting there's a sizable amount from each site that posts on the other.

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Yeah, they are both wackos. Somehow I find The Daily Kos some what worse because he praised and mourned Seung-Hui Cho, the Virginia Tech killer.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, Kos and Skins's island
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2008, 03:47:12 PM »
The primitives are right about something, though.

The set-up and format of Kos is a bizarre nightmare.

Skin's island is bad enough, but Kos is really really bad.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, Kos and Skins's island
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2008, 04:06:56 PM »
Oh.

I was confused, because I thought the primitives and the Kossacks would be natural allies.

I guess not.

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Re: primitives discuss, compare, Kos and Skins's island
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2008, 04:50:14 PM »
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I have argued, and will continue to argue, that DailyKos' Markos Moulitsas, a few of his front pagers (Dhinmi, Misslaura, BarbinMd, ScoutFinch, etc..) and his cyberbullying Kostapo are as bad for Democrats as Ann Coulter is for Republicans.


And yet the DUmmies fail to realize just how bad they are for the Democrat Party as well.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, Kos and Skins's island
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2008, 04:54:13 PM »
Liberalism Is The Philosophy Of The Stupid

The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years.  The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

If it walks like a donkey and brays like a donkey and smells like a donkey - it's Cold Warrior.  - PoliCon



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