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cali (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 08:39 AMOriginal message Myth: Early, passionate supporters of Obama are some of his most vocal critics. DUers who supported Obama before the primaries began are not among his most vocal critics here. Not that there would be anything wrong with that. But I haven't seen any evidence that that's true.If you supported Obama before the primaries started, please check in here and indicate whether you're satisfied with Obama so far, or are among his most vocal critics. I'll start:I started supporting Obama in December of '07, and I'm satisfied with his perfomance since election day- even if I don't love every appointment.
wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 08:45 AMOriginal message oh, I agree. His most vocal critics are the ones we knew would be The never-satisfied-until-my-ass-is-kissed "progressives."
ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 08:47 AMResponse to Original message 6. why would you want to start shit.......stop being an instigator
cali (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 08:52 AMResponse to Reply #6 9. really? this OP is starting shit? That's nonsense. I diss no one in it. I simply make note of the myth that early supporters of Obama are among him most vocal critics now. Oh, and gasp, I ask his early supporters to check in and not where they're at. Shocking, I tell you, just shocking.Knock it off.
girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 03:50 PMResponse to Reply #9 50. Yes, you're starting shit. I voted for Obama in my primary.
cryingshame (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 08:48 AMResponse to Original message 8. I am sick of your and other DU'ers meta-analysis of WHO is criticizing Obama's picks and performance and why people choose to do so.This is barely different than calling DU'ers out.At this point, I have to control my urge to launch an obscenity laced rant...Who I supported in the primaries and WHEN is besides the point to how I gauge his current performance.And the fact is, except for the inexcusably stupid blunder of picking Clinton for SoS, I have little to say about his appointments.
cali (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 08:53 AMResponse to Reply #8 11. lol. tough shit. and no I'm certainly not calling anyone out. Oh and i could give a flying **** about your whining.
JVS (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 10:00 AMResponse to Original message 17. I started supporting Obama after Iowa. His appointments bother me a lot. I don't like what certain members of the party are doing when they trash Howard Dean, and I think that he's letting some untrustworty people through the door. I find it disgusting when people who have done nothing but complain about Obama for the past 10 months (and then kind of clammed up after he became the nominee, but never have indicated any kind of loyalty) suddenly demand we all demonstrate trust in him just because they like what is rumored to be an appointment. I think there is a massive amount of pressure being exerted behind the scenes by the wrong factions of the party and I sincerely hope that Obama knows how to out-fox the foxes. Of course some people here would like to try to hush up my misgivings about the situation as bashing Obama. Let me be perfectly clear: it's not him, it's them. I like seeing Obama run around with some of the people he is allowing into his administration about as much as the shepherd likes to see the wolf in his pasture or as gladly as the father of the 17 year old daughter receives the visitation of 3 college freshman home for thanksgiving, reeking of peppermint schnapps, and with lascivious smirks on their faces.
BeFree (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 10:33 AMResponse to Reply #17 29. That's a stretch Equating Obama's decisions with 17 year old sex, and wolves in with the sheep. It amazes me how yall go to the furthest ends in an attempt to justify your concerns.Just remember that we all put up with similar stretches from the mcpalin camp. It all rings so familiar that it disgusts us.
JVS (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 11:53 AMResponse to Reply #29 40. I wasn't equating his decisions with that, I was equating my apprehension with that of the...shepherd and the father. I don't trust the people who are coming into the new administration.
BeFree (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 12:12 PMResponse to Reply #40 41. Your apprehension is like..... ....having wolves and sexual predators hanging around because Obama is allowing them into his administration. Is that better?Still a stretch. Can you see why it kinda disgusts me? It's like saying Obama doesn't have a clue.
JVS (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 12:14 PMResponse to Reply #41 42. Oh bullshit. I didn't say he has no clue. I'm saying that a lot of real shitheads are exerting a lot of pressure and I hope he can best them. Now welcome to ignore because I don't care if my opinion disgusts you and I don't care what you have to say.
Harvey Korman (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 10:09 AMResponse to Original message 22. I don't see this as productive at all. What is the point of this? To separate out his "true" supporters, who wouldn't dare criticize anything he does?
cali (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 10:17 AMResponse to Reply #22 26. not at all. the point. there are repeated claims that the most vocal Obama critics come from the ranks of his early supporters. I don't think that's true. And I'm curious where his early supporters stand. Anyone is free to post or not post on this thread. Some people are posting criticism. Others aren't. Either way that's fine with me.
sfexpat2000 (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-24-08 10:20 AMResponse to Reply #26 27. I think you're right and it's only a matter of time before the media pick this up to use on him.I didn't support him until Edwards dropped out.
My they do have a difficult time playing nice in the sandbox with each other.I would think it would make for a miserable life to be completly consumed by anger and hate but these folks seem to enjoy it.
