Do you really believe that the U.S. has murdered a million Iraqis?

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Philosoraptor  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Nov-19-08 02:41 PM
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Do you really believe that the U.S. has murdered a million Iraqis?
   
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Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 02:46 PM by Philosoraptor
I keep hearing this staggering figure quoted by several sources, first heard it several years ago and didn't quite believe it, people quote figures all the time. Do you think this is possibly true?

And if you think this is a fact, then how do you feel about it, and what should be done about it, if anything?

Were they ALL terrorists? Did we actually kill a million of them, or just a few hundred thousand? How the hell could we know, we've been totally locked out of all knowledge or real coverage of the war(s).

I know the U.S. has already murdered millions of people in it's short history, but these million murders all happened in the last 6 years under bush's regime, yet, almost no one ever mentions it. A million souls, a million, that's a Hitlerian figure, almost.

Is it truly true, that the United States military under bush has killed a million men, women and children in the last 6 years? If you mention this to anyone, they give you the million mile stare, it is an incomprehensible number, and an incomprehensible crime against humanity, if it is indeed true.


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365 x 6 = 2190. To kill one million people over 2190 days would work out to 456 people a day, not something that could be hidden. So drop the bong 

ck4829  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Nov-19-08 02:42 PM
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2. Probably more.
   
There is no way that only 10's of 1000's of innocent people are dead.
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sfexpat2000  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Nov-19-08 02:43 PM
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3. I think of that number whenever someone says the Iraqis need to stand up. n/t
   
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renie408  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Nov-19-08 02:44 PM
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4. What I remember reading...
   
was that it was a million people all total when you consider all the people who died who wouldn't have if we had not invaded Iraq. This means that we are responsible for the people killed in sectarian violence, the people who died due to illness and of secondary causes of war, etc.

But YES, I do believe that the US is responsible for all those deaths. Those people died because George Bush and company were determined to go to war with Iraq before they ever stepped into the White House.
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Juniperx  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Nov-19-08 02:50 PM
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14. I'm betting that's a very conservative estimate
   
Note when the media speaks of Iraqis killed, the people are called "insurgents" and it's left at that. These are Iraqi citizens that want us out of their country, and they are fighting back for their country.

Think about it, if you were in a country under siege, your leader has been killed and your army is in disarray, and some militant terrorist organization says, hey, we hate those rat bastards too. How about working with us to get them to leave? What would you do?

These poor people. What was done to them is beyond criminal.
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zorahopkins  (554 posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Nov-19-08 03:28 PM
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32. Likely Lots More
   
*ith Bush/Cheney running this *ar, and giving orders, can anyone doubt that the US has likely murdered many, many more than 1 million innocent Iraqi people -- many of (perhaps most of) them *omen and children?
Bush/Cheney are nothing but blood-thirsty monsters who surround themselves with equally noxious monstrous people.

*hat should we do about it?

If *e cannot impeach them NO* -- then at least *e ought to indict, try, CONVICT them -- and thro* THEM into JAIL!!!!

NOTE: As a *ay of protesting the fact that Bush/Cheney still occupy the *hite House, I REFUSE to use the letter that comes bet*een "V" and "X".
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[franksolich]

Oh my.

As usual, the primitives can't count.

[Carl]

Is stupid like this natural born or does one have to Work  at it?

[USA4ME]

365 x 6 = 2190. To kill one million people over 2190 days would work out to 456 people a day, not something that could be hidden. So drop the bong.

Oh man, you're asking a lot from them to both do the math AND drop the bong.

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[jukin]

Skin would lose all his vaco money if the DUmbasses ever crossed the line into reality.

[jinxmchue]

What I remember reading...
   
was that it was a million people all total when you consider all the people who died who wouldn't have if we had not invaded Iraq

The ****???  Yeah, so like who?  Saddam...  His blood-thirsty sons...  His state torturers...  His brutal army and air force personnel...

[Airwolf]

From now on I'm going to pray that a rock falls out of the sky and hits what little brain cells Philosocrapper has and crushes them out of existence.

[MrsSmith]

A recent story in The Sacramento Bee  written by Anna Johnson of the Associated Press focused on the U.S. military's main combat hospital in Iraq which has increasingly switched to helping Iraqis. As the numbers of wounded American soldiers have fallen, the hospital is now saving the lives of a remarkable 93 percent of Iraqis who come with devastating injuries...

many pics...of Iraqis saved after "their own" blew them up with suicide bombs.  (Yeah, all our fault.    )

Along with other human rights organizations, The Documental Centre for Human Rights in Iraq has compiled documentation on over 600,000 civilian executions in Iraq. Human Rights Watch reports that in one operation alone, the Anfal, Saddam killed 100,000 Kurdish Iraqis. Another 500,000 are estimated to have died in Saddam's needless war with Iran. Coldly taken as a daily average for the 24 years of Saddam's reign, these numbers give us a horrifying picture of between 70 and 125 civilian deaths per day for every one of Saddam's 8,000-odd days in power.

By contrast, taking at face value Iraq's Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf's recent claims of 500 Iraqi civilian deaths since the start of the campaign we are left with the tragedy of 38 civilian deaths daily since the start of the war.

In other words, even accepting the Iraqis own numbers and the highly-suspect assertion that all were caused by US weapons, and discounting the numbers of humanitarian organizations, the civilian death toll has, in fact, fallen since the start of the war. Indeed, it has fallen precipitously.

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