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McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« on: September 26, 2008, 08:47:42 AM »

HA! 

exactly.  I mentioned this last night.  if it is so damned critical that the american people fully
understand where the candidates want to take the country, why the hell didn't he accept the
townhall proposal?

this guy is getting caught up in his own evasions now.

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McCain camp raising town halls again as pressure builds

In what could be groundwork for the possibility that they have to skip tomorrow's debate, both John McCain and his top aide used similar rhetoric tonight to downplay the importance of the first presidential forum.

If Barack Obama had agreed to McCain's summer proposal to do joint town halls, the candidate and Steve Schmidt said, this would only be one more of many sessions featuring the two major party nominees.

"I understand that there is a lot of attention on this but I also wish Senator Obama had agreed to ten or more town hall meetings that I had asked him to attend with me," McCain told ABC's Charlie Gibson when asked in an interview broadcast on World News Tonight whether there would be a debate Friday in Mississippi as planned.  "Wouldn't be quite that much urgency if he agreed to do that, instead he refused to do it."

Talking to the campaign pool reporter later, Schmidt said McCain hoped to make it to Oxford before shifting the conversation.

"He had actually hoped this would be the 11th debate of the campaign, not the first," Schmidt said.  "He's very disappointed in Sen. Obama about that because this could have been the 11th debate. Sen. Obama said he would debate anywhere, anyplace, anytime. He refused to do that."

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Re: McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2008, 08:58:01 AM »
That'll leave a bit of a mark.  :hammer:
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Re: McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2008, 11:36:25 AM »
That'll leave a bit of a mark.  :hammer:

looks like he gave up his advantage on this line of attack.  he will apparently go to the debate.  he shoulda held out;  I'll bet my bartab that obama would have blinked by 5PM.

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Re: McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2008, 03:43:01 PM »
looks like he gave up his advantage on this line of attack.  he will apparently go to the debate.  he shoulda held out;  I'll bet my bartab that obama would have blinked by 5PM.

I don't think so - Obama was looking forward to his 90 minute campaign commercial, and the Dems have managed to muddy the waters over it to the point that not going would have done more damage (McCain afraid/unprepared to debate ... excuse to move the VP debate because Sarah Palin isnt ready.. denying the American people blahblahblah..)

The main reason I see Obama wanting to do this now is because he spent days preparing for it and thinks he needs to strike while its all fresh in his head. I suspect though he will make the same mistake that both Gore and Kerry made... Coming off holier than thou.

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Re: McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2008, 06:11:55 PM »
looks like he gave up his advantage on this line of attack.  he will apparently go to the debate.  he shoulda held out;  I'll bet my bartab that obama would have blinked by 5PM.

I don't think so - Obama was looking forward to his 90 minute campaign commercial, and the Dems have managed to muddy the waters over it to the point that not going would have done more damage (McCain afraid/unprepared to debate ... excuse to move the VP debate because Sarah Palin isnt ready.. denying the American people blahblahblah..)

The main reason I see Obama wanting to do this now is because he spent days preparing for it and thinks he needs to strike while its all fresh in his head. I suspect though he will make the same mistake that both Gore and Kerry made... Coming off holier than thou.

and also because any disruption in the debate schedule would interfere with his ass-kissing/money grubbing/fund raising schedule.

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Re: McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2008, 06:52:41 PM »
and also because any disruption in the debate schedule would interfere with his ass-kissing/money grubbing/fund raising schedule.

Absolutely - High profile fundraising oils his gears, and playing financial grab-ass is the fuel that makes his machine run.

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Re: McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2008, 07:03:07 PM »
and also because any disruption in the debate schedule would interfere with his ass-kissing/money grubbing/fund raising schedule.

Absolutely - High profile fundraising oils his gears, and playing financial grab-ass is the fuel that makes his machine run.

he HAS to take time out from campaigning in order to raise funds, since he refused public financing of his campaign.

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Re: McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2008, 07:11:11 PM »
he HAS to take time out from campaigning in order to raise funds, since he refused public financing of his campaign.

What I find most amazing is how he is earning so much, yet his overpriced campaign is bleeding him dry. Its got to be the most wasteful, bling-encrusted undertaking in the history of campaigning, and all its bought him is a few percent advantage in current polls. He should be up by 15 to 20 points by now. He is basically an unlikeable, unapproachable guy.

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Re: McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2008, 07:25:13 PM »
he HAS to take time out from campaigning in order to raise funds, since he refused public financing of his campaign.

What I find most amazing is how he is earning so much, yet his overpriced campaign is bleeding him dry. Its got to be the most wasteful, bling-encrusted undertaking in the history of campaigning, and all its bought him is a few percent advantage in current polls. He should be up by 15 to 20 points by now. He is basically an unlikeable, unapproachable guy.

he is under-earning.  that may change for september, but he is currently burning as much money as he is raising.  but don't
underestimate what that money gets him.  he has an AWESOME ground game in every state.  I live in a very red state, but
he is all over the place.


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Re: McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2008, 07:32:59 PM »
he is under-earning.  that may change for september, but he is currently burning as much money as he is raising.  but don't
underestimate what that money gets him.  he has an AWESOME ground game in every state.  I live in a very red state, but
he is all over the place.

That may be true - being in Massachusetts ( or according to Obama "Massatoosits"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUH_sUg1Sbs) I see little Obama activity - but, really.. is there any likelyhood he will lose The Commonwealth ? It would be a waste of money.

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Re: McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2008, 07:34:58 PM »
he is under-earning.  that may change for september, but he is currently burning as much money as he is raising.  but don't
underestimate what that money gets him.  he has an AWESOME ground game in every state.  I live in a very red state, but
he is all over the place.

That may be true - being in Massachusetts ( or according to Obama "Massatoosits"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUH_sUg1Sbs) I see little Obama activity - but, really.. is there any likelyhood he will lose The Commonwealth ? It would be a waste of money.

no.  and there is also no possibility that he will win SC, yet he has a strong presence here.  the same goes for mississippi; he
won't carry that state, but my mom and dad tell me that he has offices all over the place.


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Re: McCain camp raising town halls again as debate pressure builds
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 07:41:55 PM »
no.  and there is also no possibility that he will win SC, yet he has a strong presence here.  the same goes for mississippi; he
won't carry that state, but my mom and dad tell me that he has offices all over the place.

The only reason I can see for that is to push for massive popular vote count - There will be riots if there is an issue with Obama winning popular vote and losing the EC. Frankly, I doubt that would happen I think one of these two will win decisively but I still don't know how its going to fall.

But if it did happen, It would be poetic justice for the PUMAs.