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What is a Liberal?
« on: September 23, 2008, 08:47:16 PM »
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historian (1000+ posts)      Tue Sep-23-08 09:24 PM
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what is a liberal?
 Advertisements [?]Whenever a repuke begins to froth at the mouth and accuse liberals of everything i ask them to define liberal. Most of them choke on the answer or come up with crap such as "they take away from the rich to give to the poor and they want to take away our guns."
How on earth is it possible to have a sensible conversation with a repuke? It isn't because their ignorance is only superseded by their insecurity and desperate attempt to hang on to the old (like Linus's blanket).
 


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Posteritatis (1000+ posts)      Tue Sep-23-08 09:30 PM
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1. Most of them define it as "anything I don't like"
 Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 09:31 PM by Posteritatis
I'm not quite confident that I can say I'm not sometimes guilty of the same thing in the other direction, though. I dunno; political ideologies are slippery things.


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muntrv  (1000+ posts)     Tue Sep-23-08 09:30 PM
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2. A patriot.



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nxylas  (1000+ posts)       Tue Sep-23-08 09:36 PM
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4. Exactly. I'd be interested to hear people's definition of a conservative here
 As a test to see whether we're guilty of the same thing.
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rosesaylavee  (1000+ posts)       Tue Sep-23-08 09:32 PM
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3. If you are a conservative or a neocon, 
 a liberal is someone to hate. Someone who represents Other. Someone who belongs to a group that held onto Congress for decades prior to 1996 and Newt Gingrich's Contract "on" America. 


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Re: What is a Liberal?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 10:32:11 PM »
In the classical sense a liberal believes in freedom.  In today's sense it is a totalitarian collectivist.

To review, today's liberal is the exact opposite of the classical definition of a liberal.

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Re: What is a Liberal?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2008, 10:38:45 PM »
Liberal: Someone who wants to do what they think is good with YOUR money.
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Re: What is a Liberal?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2008, 10:48:52 PM »
A misnomer. The true name is a Communist/Fascist.
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Re: What is a Liberal?
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2008, 07:01:25 AM »
Conservative  - a liberal who's been mugged by reality.
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Re: What is a Liberal?
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2008, 07:03:19 AM »
Quote from: freedumb2003 on September 23, 2008, 10:38:45 PM
Liberal: Someone who wants to do what they think is good with YOUR money.


I'll go with this one.
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Re: What is a Liberal?
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2008, 07:18:01 AM »
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what is a liberal?

I've asked the same question, but usually it's worded more like "What IS that thing!?!"

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Re: What is a Liberal?
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2008, 07:23:36 AM »
What's the difference between a liberal and a communist?
The communist admits it.

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Re: What is a Liberal?
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2008, 07:32:17 AM »
Does anyone know the difference between a Liberal and a Libertarian?

4 Letters and a fear of taxes.
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Re: What is a Liberal?
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2008, 07:40:22 AM »
Liberals:

Ones who consider the USA, morality, decency, conservatism, religion, individualism, ambition, charity, capitalism and normality to be a big bolder in their path to one-world domination.

(Why in the world would anyone "choke" when asked to define a liberal?)
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Re: What is a Liberal?
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2008, 10:08:04 AM »
Quote from: freedumb2003 on September 23, 2008, 10:38:45 PM
Liberal: Someone who wants to do what they think is good with YOUR money.


Proof: Joe Biden's charitable giving over the last ten years.  While making north of seven figures each year he gave an average of $350 per year to charity.  He gave an average of $3500 per year per tax payer of our money to failed social programs.
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