Breaking, per the BBC: Trump says Israel and Hamas 'both sign off' on first ...

[SVPete]

Breaking, per the BBC: Trump says Israel and Hamas 'both sign off' on first phase of Gaza peace plan (Hamas confirms)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220707245

Celerity (52,393 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:16 PM
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Breaking, per the BBC: Trump says Israel and Hamas 'both sign off' on first phase of Gaza peace plan (Hamas confirms)
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2nzlj2j4kt

enid602 (9,557 posts)
2. Eat
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:22 PM
I hope the Israelis will let the Palestinians eat, at least for a while.

That's been up to Hamas. Maybe Hamas and its friends will stop stealing the food when it's brought in?

Disaffected (5,931 posts)
8. All bets are off,
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:36 PM
once the hostages are returned. Either side will then have ample opportunity to renege on the agreement based either on real or imaginary issues.

I'm giving it a couple of weeks or so b/f it hits the fan again.

Sadly, this is likely, plus or minus all the hostages being returned.

DoBW (2,810 posts)
9. It's a trick ... trying to back door the peace prize at last minute
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:51 PM

In real life, Trump knows there is pretty much zero chance the Nobel committee would consider him, and he doesn't care.

AloeVera (3,808 posts)
16. "Agreed upon line" for withdrawal
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 10:19 PM
Noooooooooo...

Netanyahu has already said he opposes withdrawal of troops. There will be no "agreed upon line".

Once the hostages are released, "peace" is over.

Teh JOOOOooooooooos! Would be more honest.

Sparkly (24,763 posts)
18. I'll believe it when Bibi puts his weapons down.
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 11:31 PM
No more bombs.

moonscape (5,585 posts)
20. This. He didn't stop bombing Southern Lebanon after
Reply to Sparkly (Reply #18)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 11:41 PM
agreeing to the ceasefire with Hezbollah that Biden brokered, still hasn’t, so why would he now?

Xolodno (7,195 posts)
22. Bibi is just going to use this pause...
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:28 AM
...to regroup, assess and re target. He'll just make up some lie how Hamas violated the terms and start shooting again. Once the war ends he's toast and he knows it. And they still have to negotiate who will govern Gaza later and he sure as hell doesn't want a one station solution, even when a significant portion of the UN left the chamber when it was his turn to speak. He doesn't care what the world thinks of him.

Nor does he care about the country or its people. Only of himself like most dictators.

The Joooooooooo-Hatred is strong in this one.

Wanderlust988 (680 posts)
24. Biden could've gotten the same deal last year but he wouldn't rein in Bibi
Reply to Celerity (Original post)
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 02:41 AM
Biden should've told Bibi enough is enough! No more weapons to Israel. This would've forced the end of the war.

In real life, I think Israel would have told LIEden to pound sand, and offered to send him some from Gaza. I think whoever was acting for LIEden knew that.

[DUmpDiver]

In real life, Trump knows there is pretty much zero chance the Nobel committee would consider him, and he doesn't care.

He's kind of a slacker on the peace front. He's only ended eight wars in nine months.

[SVPete]

DUmmies hate Jared Kushner because Trump. This X post gives reality, https://x.com/ratlpolicy/status/1976425168462545183 .

Mike Coté
@ratlpolicy
I was a huge skeptic of Kushner in 2017. I didn't think he belonged anywhere near government, especially foreign affairs. I was very wrong.

He's already the most accomplished & effective American diplomat of the 21st century by a long shot.

The Persian Jewess
@persianjewess
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Oct 9
Jared Kushner brokered both the Abraham Accords and the Gaza Peace Deal.

Absolute legend.

[RonE]

Xolodno (7,195 posts)
22. Bibi is just going to use this pause...
...to regroup, assess and re target. He'll just make up some lie how Hamas violated the terms and start shooting again.

It's good that you admit  who you align with in the middle east. Everyone should take note.

I heard something to this  effect this morning said this morning. "Look in the mirror and seriously ask yourself if you'd rather see the conflict continue if it would prevent Trump receiving credit. If so you have severe TDS. Get help."

[SVPete]

It's good that you admit  who you align with in the middle east. Everyone should take note.

I heard something to this  effect this morning said this morning. "Look in the mirror and seriously ask yourself if you'd rather see the conflict continue if it would prevent Trump receiving credit. If so you have severe TDS. Get help."

Here's much of what POs DU-Folk:

* Trump accomplished this, not LIEden;

* The terms, if followed, benefit Israel, significantly;

* If followed, Hamas would give up: the hostages, their weapons, their tunnels; Hamas is effectively surrendering;

* Hamas' source of weapons, Iran, got clobbered by Israel and the US, which added to the new sheriff in DC in command of US forces near the Red Sea means Iran might not be in a position to supply arms to Hamas.

The key, of course, is, "If followed". Trump and Israel know Hamas cannot be trusted, so they'll be watching carefully and probably have consequences at the ready.

And, yeah, if the peace deal POs Progs and they rejoice that Trump did not receive the NPP, they are possessed by their TDS.