Does anybody else sometimes feel like they're Living in Germany in the early 30s

[Mary Ann]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217848841

Star Member raccoon (30,756 posts)


Does anybody else sometimes feel like they're Living in Germany in the early 30s?

Loooong thread about evenly divided between "Yes!!! For sure!!!" and the slightly smarter dupipo (including Brooklynite and Symphthsical) who know better.

I cannot understand how they can see "fascism!" in the things Republicans are doing when we have the Dems condoning mob rule (summer of 2020, and the more recent Tennessee legislature thing, and a lot of other stuff;) authoritarianism (decreeing EVs against the will of the American People, etc. forcing the acceptance of the mental illness of trannies on us; the undocumented Democrats flooding our southern border; talk of packing the SC; adding permanent Senators from Puerto Rico and DC; the corruption of our electoral system with drop boxes, ballot harvesting, no-excuse absentee voting, and no signature ballots; and so much else. I really wish someone would explain it to me.

[ADsOutburst]

As if they would know what Germany was like at that time.

[SVPete]

Well there are Commies rioting in the streets, as during the Weimar Republic. OTOH, there is no equivalent to Hitler's and Röhm's Brownshirts counter-rioting against them.

[jukin]

I do!

Not for your fake reasons DUmbass but for the reality of life under Joedolph Biden and the truly fascist federal government.

[DefiantSix]

Well there are Commies rioting in the streets, as during the Weimar Republic. OTOH, there is no equivalent to Hitler's and Röhm's Brownshirts counter-rioting against them.

Don't forget the Waimar regime driving the economy into the shitter, the country hopelessly drowning in debt and the currency being inflated beyond recognition.

 

[Eupher]

As if they would know what Germany was like at that time.

Zackly. As to Pete's point about the Brownshirts, he's right. They were überviolent and most definitely in the intimidation business (enough to make the BLM morons look like pikers), but then again -- from whom did the BLM pikers actually learn their techniques?

[Old n Grumpy]

Zackly. As to Pete's point about the Brownshirts, he's right. They were überviolent and most definitely in the intimidation business (enough to make the BLM morons look like pikers), but then again -- from whom did the BLM pikers actually learn their techniques?

And you forgot antifa

[Eupher]

And you forgot antifa

I kinda lump 'em all in the same basket. 

[SVPete]

Those who rightly rue the SA thugs forget that they only slightly out-thugged Communist thugs. Horst Wessel did not die in battle in Poland or France.

[DUmpDiver]

I hope so. I can't wait until we Blitzkrieg Canada.

[jukin]

This man who recognized and fought fascism longer than anyone, said it best.

[CollectivismMustDie]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217848841Loooong thread about evenly divided between "Yes!!! For sure!!!" and the slightly smarter dupipo (including Brooklynite and Symphthsical) who know better.

I cannot understand how they can see "fascism!" in the things Republicans are doing when we have the Dems condoning mob rule (summer of 2020, and the more recent Tennessee legislature thing, and a lot of other stuff;) authoritarianism (decreeing EVs against the will of the American People, etc. forcing the acceptance of the mental illness of trannies on us; the undocumented Democrats flooding our southern border; talk of packing the SC; adding permanent Senators from Puerto Rico and DC; the corruption of our electoral system with drop boxes, ballot harvesting, no-excuse absentee voting, and no signature ballots; and so much else. I really wish someone would explain it to me.

It's like this:

[beefeater]

Only during Octoberfest

[Mary Ann]

Sympthsical (6,494 posts)

67. The internet has done something very dumb.

The promise of the Internet was that it would democratize access to knowledge.

Instead, it democratized knowledge itself.

And when you're counting on uneducated, not terribly informed people with a lot of tribal self-interest to determine for others what is true or not, we get into a lot of trouble. And when I say uneducated, I don't just mean people without degrees. There are a lot of people with degrees - even advanced ones - who do not know how to read articles and critically think about them. Right now, I have professors in school who strike me as completely mush-brained and absolutely useless in learning anything outside of the very, very narrow band of their specific expertise in direct class materials.

Being the same age as my professors has been very . . . clarifying. I was having a conversation with my constitutional law professor about two weeks ago, and halfway through I realized, "Oh my god, he doesn't actually know what he's talking about." And why would he? He spends all day sending his students Twitter posts and substack articles that align with his ideology and nothing else.

The Internet has introduced a climate where our beliefs, ideas, and modes of thinking are never challenged because we can so easily and successfully cocoon ourselves from engaging anything that would cause discomfort or instigate reassessment.

I don't know what the solution is. I'm not sure there is one. Teach critical thinking in schools would be it. But that's not really a thing in high school, and it is much less a thing in college than it used to be. College feels more and more like confirmation bias writ large. When students are actually challenged and exposed to things they don't agree with or don't want to hear, they increasingly freak out about it or complain to the administration or try to get someone censured or fired.

Not a good harbinger for the future.

He's right. Why does someone this smart stay on DU?

[SVPete]

He's right. Why does someone this smart stay on DU?

A DU post that is thoughtful and worth reading in full (which I did) ... DU-member Sympthsical may be typing his/her way into FFR Limbo.

I suppose that hearing a prof one is supposed to respect and from whom one is supposed to learn the US Constitution spouting ignorance and BS would be rather disconcerting. As would the realization that hundreds or thousands of his/her students have gotten fed the same ignorance and BS over ?? years or decades.

[SVPete]

Only during Octoberfest

German ... blonde ... carrying steins of beer ... obviously a neo-Nazi fomenting a putsch!