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Offline CC27

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It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches
« on: January 10, 2023, 10:52:24 AM »
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It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches the wrong result.

Most of us believe in democracy. We believe in the literal process, recognizing that democracy is the beating heart of freedom, and that freedom is what protects all of the rights we cherish. Others think exclusively of right and wrong, thinking that results are all that matter. Of those some are inclined to think democracies intrinsically tend to "get it right" more often than other forms of governance, and so they support democracies. Then there are the rest. Most falling into this bucket are unsure about how to make this world more to their liking. They could vote in elections, they could fall in behind a strongman, whatever seems to work...

The active threat to democracy comes from the ends justify the means crowd, specifically the ones with a clear end in mind. And the most dangerous of these are those who believe they were commanded to implement God's will. For all of the above the means are at root a distraction, their focus is on the ends. Why honor the results of an election if those results are just destined to bring negative or even catastrophic results? They may acknowledge tactical reasons to accept an election defeat, centered on their assessment of whether continued resistance would set them back even further, but they see nothing sacred about elections as a means.

For the narrowly religious among the above the formula is simplest: Reject the Acts of Man (and yes they think in those gender terms) that oppose the Will of God. But others are almost as fervid in their certainty. They know that the purity of the white race has to be defended. They know that America is destined to rule the world. They know that their own culture is better than all others. They know that men are superior to women in decision making outside of the home etc.etc. They "know" what is right for America, and either democracy can ratify their preexisting convictions, or it has to be "reformed"until it does.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217546773

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Re: It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2023, 11:07:26 AM »
The active threat to democracy comes from the ends justify the means crowd, specifically the ones with a clear end in mind.

You mean like you DUmmies going after Trump for anything, which is nothing, for 7 years?

Your clear end in mind is a Trump indictment, which isn't coming, and him being frog marched to prison.

That kind of ends justify the means???
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Because only the left goes searching for that which is not there in a desperate attempt to be offended about something.

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Re: It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2023, 03:08:44 PM »
No. All of you DUchebag DUmmys believe in fascism, pure authoritative totalitarianism. 
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When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2023, 03:34:38 PM »
Sounds like Tom doesn’t like the concept of freedom and people being able to shape things in ways he doesn’t approve. Either Tom will get over it or he won’t. Either way, he’s irrelevant and his words mean nothing.

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Re: It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2023, 03:43:22 PM »
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We believe in the literal process, recognizing that democracy is the beating heart of freedom, and that freedom is what protects all of the rights we cherish.

Democracy isn't the beating heart of freedom, it's the repetititive stomping of the majority with its foot on the throats of the minority.

freedom
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free·​dom ˈfrē-dəm

The absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action



Your democracy is a threat to freedom, that is why your democracy must have its limits, and the reason the framers gave us the bill of rights to protect us from your democracy.
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Re: It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2023, 05:25:05 PM »
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It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches the wrong result.

That statement says a lot.
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Re: It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2023, 08:01:26 PM »
Quote from: CollectivismMustDie on January 10, 2023, 03:43:22 PM
Democracy isn't the beating heart of freedom, it's the repetititive stomping of the majority with its foot on the throats of the minority.

freedom
noun
free·​dom ˈfrē-dəm

The absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action



Your democracy is a threat to freedom, that is why your democracy must have its limits, and the reason the framers gave us the bill of rights to protect us from your democracy.

^^^^^^^ THIS 100X THIS ^^^^^^^^^
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When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2023, 11:16:52 PM »
Tommy, you ignorant Cuck.  Let's hope you are better at Pinball than defending our Constitutional Republic.
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Re: It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2023, 05:28:21 AM »
Quote from: DUmpsterDiver on January 10, 2023, 11:16:52 PM
Tommy, you ignorant Cuck.  Let's hope you are better at Pinball than defending our Constitutional Republic.

Pinball?
Is that what they call defrauding and grifting off the generosity of working people these days?
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Re: It's simple. They don't give a f*uck about the democratic process if it reaches
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2023, 09:51:37 AM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on January 11, 2023, 05:28:21 AM
Pinball?
Is that what they call defrauding and grifting off the generosity of working people these days?

I think it may be an indirect way of saying that tommy is perhaps a deaf dumb blind kid.
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