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fightforfreedom (274 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216316594As I watched the attack on our capital, I saw things most Americans did not.I saw a complete failure of our education system. I saw a complete failure of generations of parental education.What we saw that day was thousands of Americans of most age groups, completely mindless. They had history wrong, facts wrong, reality wrong, they could not tell the difference between right and wrong, a lie or a truth. They could not tell they were committing crimes or not. What they did that day most children would have known better.It was without a doubt the most frightening thing I have ever seen in my lifetime. Nothing compares to it.
Star Member ProudMNDemocrat (10,254 posts) 1. The Audacity of Trump saying NOTHING wrong took place on January 6th, 2021What the historians will write about what took place that day WILL NOT likely see the light of day in a classroom because GOP lawmakers will censor that from History classes.BUT! There will be plenty of books on that day in words and pictures, Documentaries filmed that will detail just exactly what we saw in real time in bookstores. FREEDOM of the Press is still one of the pillars of this fragile democracy we must fight to retain.
OMGWTF (1,995 posts) 29. Misinformation courtesy of Fux News and the rest of the Reicht-wing hate media.
Star Member TheRealNorth (4,858 posts) 3. I am less inclined to believe a failure of education....And more inclined to blame the traitors because I believe in most cases the traitors consciously chose to believe information that supported their worldview.
Cuthbert Allgood (3,703 posts) 4. As a high school teacher in their 31st year of teaching, don't put that shit on us.We get blamed for enough stuff.
Star Member Kaleva (29,437 posts) 7. 800 people out of 300+ million attacking the Capitol and you say it's complete failure... of our education system?
Star Member nolabear (39,206 posts) 10. I saw rage and fear fed by lies and scheming.Authoritarians, cult leaders and conmen are solely focused on creating fear and distrust, feeding it endlessly, and convincing people only they have a certain way out of it. The education system can’t educate anyone out of that, though I think people who are more educated are more likely to be on the con side of the situation. They see an opportunity to gain power or money, they have a certain level of sociopathy, and they fuel the fire.Honestly I don’t know how we’ll get out of the disinformation/con job situation we’re in as long as social media exists. Making people’s lives better and not randomly using that media to stoke hate and fear ourselves (while remaining true yo our principles) might help. But it’s a hard fix.
Star Member peggysue2 (8,485 posts) 12. All true but in addition . . .These same people were seduced and hooked by a massive propaganda campaign, both foreign and domestic. Think Jim Jones on a grand scale, a cult snagging a third of the American population in a paranoid, Messianic quest.Jonestown members drank the Kool-aid. For the most part, they drank the Kool-aid willingly.And yes, it's terrifying.
Star Member Irish_Dem (20,078 posts) 14. I saw it too for sure.American citizens who understood nothing about American history and government.Spoiled, entitled, immature and foolish people who act out nonsense.No moral core, no moral compass.No understanding of fantasy vs reality.No concern for the social contract.I absolutely see all of this as quite chilling.
nini (16,438 posts) 15. You saw white fear fueled by propagandaAnd that's harder to solve unfortunately.
Star Member MineralMan (141,729 posts) 18. It's not the education system that's to blame. It is deliberate ignorance.It is all those people who paid no attention in class, didn't do homework, and still don't pay attention nor do they learn anything.They're stupid, but it's a deliberate choice. Such people reject learning. They refuse to learn. Some of them had families who were the same as they turned out to be. Stupidity is a choice. Ignorance is a choice. Information is presented, and some people simply reject it. They could learn, but they will not learn. They refuse to learn.
OMGWTF (1,995 posts) 31. Religious nutz too. They have no filter other than what their whak-o preacher said.My 91-year-old female parental unit is so far down the Reicht-wing, racist, religious end-timer rat hole that she's lost most of her family. Long ago when I expressed concern to her that she was in a cult. she became very agitated, jumped up and pointed a finger in my face, with her eyes bugging out and yelling, "You're the one in the cult!" Some people are just unreachable.
moondust (17,904 posts) 23. Bad parenting.Many were probably raised by greedy, corrupt, racist, self-righteous parents who learned from Reagan, neoconfederates, and others to hate "big gubment" that supports public schools and makes them pay taxes and minimum wages, wear seatbelts, and obey speed limits.
Initech (90,616 posts) 30. I said this on another forum that I belong to:And I'm just an armchair psychologist, but what the parents watch and listen to absolutely has an affect on the kids growing up. Like if a parent listens to nothing but Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, don't be surprised if the kids turn out to be sociopathic, gun toting racist neo Nazis with an ego complex. Just saying.
Star Member CloudWatcher (1,232 posts) 34. Complete failure of our education systemI agree, but it's not the the fault of the teachers. I don't think enough time isspent teaching how to evaluate your sources.I don't believe that people are willfully ignorant. It's that they don't have the skills todetermine when they are being fed a line of BS.And ... why don't we teach better?-- Corporations want willing suckers. Not discerning consumers.-- Corporations want trained cogs. Not ones that challenge the status quo.-- Churches. Do I even need to go there?If you think CRT caused problems ... can you imagine the pushback ifwe really taught our kids how to think?And to be fair, it's not easy. I spent more than a little time discussing withour kids how to decide which "news" sources to accept.
rebe303 (99 posts) 45. Fox NewsIt was a display of successful Reeducation, courtesy of Faux News and other BS
NullTuples (2,342 posts) 47. I saw the opposite: education systems and social systems that had been taken overThis wasn't some careless accident whereby schools forgot to teach science and unbiased history.Nor were religious leaders the least bit confused when they taught their followers that logic, rational thought & science are literal representations of the Devil.Fox News didn't just forget to check sources and to uphold journalistic integrity.They've been at this for decades, intentionally working toward what we are about to go through.
yobrault1 (42 posts) 49. January 6, 2021 is why I was inconsolable on November 9, 2016I cried all day the day after the 2016 election. I have lived in the US, but I'm from Canada. I knew what tfg was all about and I couldn't believe the country went down that dark road. January 6, 2021 was a natural end to anything tfg controls because everything he touches turns to shit. The only surprise, really, was that so many ppl couldn't fathom that they were being used as a battering ram. Now the slobfather wants them to save him, he's actively trying to incite them, and the idiots don't even realize he did and will completely abandon them. They will rally behind this pure source of horseshit. Makes me so sad.
Star Member Martin68 (17,445 posts) 59. Um, some of us have been seeing that for a few decades now. It is more in our face now thanks toDump, but it's been an obvious trend to anyone who is paying attention. Maybe that's not "most Americans," but I doubt "most Americans" are complacent about what happened on the 6th. It was a wake-up call for all of us.
fightforfreedomAs I watched the attack on our capital, I saw things most Americans did not.
I saw a complete failure of our education system. I saw a complete failure of generations of parental education.What we saw that day was thousands of Americans of most age groups, completely mindless. They had history wrong, facts wrong, reality wrong, they could not tell the difference between right and wrong, a lie or a truth. They could not tell they were committing crimes or not. What they did that day most children would have known better.
OMGWTF (1,995 posts)31. Religious nutz too. They have no filter other than what their whak-o preacher said.My 91-year-old female parental unit is so far down the Reicht-wing, racist, religious end-timer rat hole that she's lost most of her family. Long ago when I expressed concern to her that she was in a cult. she became very agitated, jumped up and pointed a finger in my face, with her eyes bugging out and yelling, "You're the one in the cult!" Some people are just unreachable.
fightforfreedom (274 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216316594As I watched the attack on our capital, I saw things most Americans did not.
