if you choose not to be vaccinated...

[Texacon]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216155572


Uh oh, someone interjecting some truthiness.

myohmy2
if you choose not to be vaccinated...

...when you catch COVID and begin to die please don't go to the hospital to die there...

...be considerate...the hospitals are now full of unvaccinated people dying of COVID causing our healthcare providers to be super stretched and overwhelmed...

...if I need to go to the hospital because of a heart attack, automobile accident or maybe even a stroke there won't be any room for me and then I'LL DIE and I don't want to die...

...it's not fair to put me and my life at risk...it's not fair to over-work our healthcare providers until they stress-out or quit...it's not fair to be sucking up all of our healthcare dollars when you planned on dying anyway...

...be considerate of your fellow American...have a heart...there's nothing wrong with dying at home...

...people do it all the time...

Siwsan
1. The willfully unvaxxed should be triaged to the back of the line and Covid beds should be limited
Once that limited number of beds is full, the Covid inflicted should be advised to go home and ingest horse paste.

Zeitghost
3. Why stop there?
Let's apply the same policy to anyone who makes bad health decisions. Smoker with lung cancer? 350lb type 2 diabetic? Alcoholic with scrocciss? Gang banger with a gun shot wound? Junkie with HIV? Go home and die...

And we’re off!  That’s all I’m bringing over, but it’s a fun thread.

KC

[thundley4]

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (WICS) — Data from the Illinois Department of Public Health (IDPH) on its Statewide Metrics webpage shows 42% of all COVID-19 deaths starting on Oct. 20 through Oct. 27, 2021, in Illinois were among fully vaccinated people.

A total of 215 people died from COVID-19 during that time frame, and 91 were fully vaccinated against the virus.

“It’s bothersome of course,” said Springfield Infectious Disease Specialist Dr. Donald Graham. "First of all, we don’t want to see any deaths, secondly, we’d like to be able to completely rely on the vaccine."

https://newschannel20.com/news/local/42-of-covid-19-deaths-in-illinois-last-week-were-fully-vaccinated

[landofconfusion80]

When my wife went to the ER, she got right in. Nothing appeared overstretched due to the fauci flu

[Wineslob]

When my wife went to the ER, she got right in. Nothing appeared overstretched due to the fauci flu

Exactly, they are making shit up.

[jukin]

Except reality is a bitch on a DUmbass.

[SVPete]

Zeitghost
3. Why stop there?
Let's apply the same policy to anyone who makes bad health decisions. Smoker with lung cancer? 350lb type 2 diabetic? Alcoholic with scrocciss? Gang banger with a gun shot wound? Junkie with HIV? Go home and die...

Zap! And don't forget promiscuous gays with HIV, promiscuous males and females with HPV, resistant gonorrhea, drunk/high driver ...

[USA4ME]

Hortensis

26. Some posts have been reminding me of the accusation that the ACA would include "death panels." Not actual panels in this case, but a mentality of selecting out a group for death. Only those for whom death would be appropriate, of course, complete with rationale. It's purely coincidental that the chosen victims who shouldn't have healthcare because they don't deserve it overlap strikingly with political opponents who've become feared and hated.

What it's doing here on DU, I don't know. This is NOT compatible with the principles of Democratic liberalism by any definition, and no amount of fear can excuse it to me. Entirely to the contrary.

How could anyone who's passionately committed to universal healthcare reconcile that with a new passion for denying healthcare to millions? And how could anyone who sees himself as virtuously very different from conservative racists reconcile that with embracing discrimination-to-the-death against members of a group he's decided "deserves" it?

To my mind, the wish to deny healthcare to millions reflects the same kind of depraved indifference to the lives of others that the antivax disease-spreaders do, claiming the group's unworthiness as justification to promote their deaths.

On top of that appalling similarity, there's the pathetic, trumpist-worthy denial of reality: The vast majority of anti-vaxxers who get Covid are not going to die from the current viruses, with or without hospital care. This fact-free fancy has been showing up in hundreds of posts for over a year now. No amount of denial will make our scary political opponents die off in large percentages.

But, bottom line in any case, this can be taken to the bank: No, they're not going to be locked out of the healthcare system any more than we're going to lock her up. Democrats don't do this, WON'T ever do this, will always fight those who would.

80% on cue. Any one of us could have written this both better and more accurately.

The truth is that despite this primitive pointing out that its fellow primitives have consistently been wishing for C19 to kill those whom they oppose politically, it is an almost 50,000 post member that’s on a site that is extremely hate filled. There’s no washing over this fact and the primitive correctly recognizes it. Problem is, the primitives have been wishing death upon those they politically oppose for years regardless of the topic. And that it took this primitive 50,000 posts to half-way notice is the problem.

And despite the posters statement otherwise, it IS compatible with the principles of Democrats.

.

[DLR Pyro]

Siwsan
1. The willfully unvaxxed should be triaged to the back of the line and Covid beds should be limited

That's not how healthcare is done in a civilized society.  Maybe is a place like north Korea or China but not here, unless the healthcare provider want to be sued into the 22nd century

[Texacon]

Wonder how they feel about the vaccinated (double, triple, quadruple), taking up beds?  It’s happening.

KC

[jukin]

It is amazing what you can learn on internet if you are open to opinions and have intelligence, both of which the DUmbasses do not possess.

Before early 2021 there was no such term as "breakthrough" in reference to vaccines. The term for when a disease infected a person that had been previously vaccinated was "VACCINE FAILURE." I think it interesting how so many terms relating to vaccines and the inadequacies of the covid shot have been redefined. That is just another reason I rest assured that the government only has our best interests at heart.

[SVPete]

It is amazing what you can learn on internet if you are open to opinions and have intelligence, both of which the DUmbasses do not possess.

Before early 2021 there was no such term as "breakthrough" in reference to vaccines. The term for when a disease infected a person that had been previously vaccinated was "VACCINE FAILURE." I think it interesting how so many terms relating to vaccines and the inadequacies of the covid shot have been redefined. That is just another reason I rest assured that the government only has our best interests at heart.

Call it a "breakthrough" infection or a "ham-on-rye" infection, infections of vaccinated people are not unique to Covid vaccines or only after 2021, https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/majority-mumps-cases-are-vaccinated-cdc-finds-rcna6482 :

According to the report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, one-third of mumps cases in the U.S. from 2007 to 2019 were reported in children and adolescents. As many as 94 percent of those who contracted the illness had been vaccinated.

“Before that, large outbreaks of mumps among people who were fully vaccinated were not common, including among vaccinated children,” said Mariel Marlow, an epidemiologist at the CDC who led the new study. “But the disease symptoms are usually milder and complications are less frequent in vaccinated people.”

[dandi]

For the DUmmies who believe that those with self-inflicted conditions resulting from obesity, smoking, drug use, etc. are in a different category than those who have caused a "surge" in the shortage of hospital beds by not vaxxing, my question is, what difference does it make? Either way, they are taking up resources you feel should be prioritized to those Covid-vaccinated folks you seem to deign as special people. The net result is exactly the same, so why not send them home, too, at least until the beds open up?

I might also ask about those vaccinated patients with comorbidities like cancer, COPD, heart disease, or drug abuse, who may only be expected to live a short time anyway. Why shouldn't we divert resources away from them to the unvaxxed young and otherwise healthy people who can reasonably be expected to recover completely and go on to live long, healthy and productive lives?

You see what kind of ethical quagmire this could turn into, and any objective observer can discern just what the one poster hinted at; that this is nothing on DUmmies part but a call for death on their political foes.

And these are the ****sticks we're supposed to listen to and trust to remake our healthcare system? I don't think so.
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[ABC-2]

Except reality is a bitch on a DUmbass.

Ha! Ha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krD4hdGvGHM

Click on pic above posted by jukin in reply#4 ... to view it larger, and to which  I agree!

[SVPete]

Zeitghost
3. Why stop there?
Let's apply the same policy to anyone who makes bad health decisions. Smoker with lung cancer? 350lb type 2 diabetic? Alcoholic with scrocciss? Gang banger with a gun shot wound? Junkie with HIV? Go home and die...

Typical response from someone who cannot respond with reason or facts:

NoRethugFriends (280 posts)

4. The reddist of herrings. The most straw-filled of straw men.

  Exposing the OP's intellectual inconsistency is relevant, not a "red herring". And Zeitghost did not falsely attribute an idea to anyone. Zeitghosthas, just now, 798 posts, a relative noob. I'm a little surprised (s)he did not receive pizza delivery and a post-deletion for such an astute mega-ZAP. Especially since so many DUpipo resemble Zeitghost's second "What about ____?"s .