We should get more aggressive with the anti-vaxxers.

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Star Member Yavin4 (32,568 posts)
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We should get more aggressive with the anti-vaxxers.

Unless you have a solid medical reason for not getting the vaccine or you're under the age of 12, then there's no reason why you should not get the vaccine. I would propose that all students, over the age of 12, get the vaccine before they're allowed back in the classroom. Sound harsh? That's been school policy for years for the measles, mumps, and other vaccines.

All public sector employees, federal, state, and local, should be ordered to get the vaccine including all military personnel.

Finally, health insurance companies should be allowed to charge higher premiums for those who refuse the vaccine without a legitimate medical reason. We should make an exception for a once in a 100 years pandemic.

It is highly inconsistent to support mandating masks and social distancing laws without also mandating vaccines for those without a legitimate medical reason or are under the age of 12.

"Dems rounding up the Jews Anti-Vaxxers for transport in the new Vax Vans..."

RegularJam (272 posts)

3. Somehow we have to get more aggressive.

Our current position is very pro-variant.

I'll be very honest and say that the vaccine initially was concerning to me. It should have been to all of us.

The large amount of research that has now been done has me feeling very good about getting it this Friday. I also talked to my doctor about it and she said to get it. I have yet to have had an anti-vaccer tell me they aren't getting it because their doctor told them not to.

For transparency I would have already been vaccinated but my doctors wanted me off a medication for a period before I get the vaccination. I'm excited that my appointment is this Friday.

All of us acting in good faith are going to be punished by those eager to spread it virus while cheering on variants.

 

Star Member Hortensis (45,641 posts)

56. You can get personally aggressive by refusing to do business or socialize inside with those who refuse vaccination.

My husband and I have "fired" our hairdresser and barber, and they both know why. Mine knows that I consider her depraved indifference to the lives of her customers inexcusable, a new notion to her I'm sure. That's us getting aggressive.

We stopped shopping at a supermarket that did not institute precautions and let them know a long time ago; at some point we'll likely remind them, maybe after reading some puff piece in the paper. Same for any businesses that have exhibited depraved indifference to the lives of their staff and customers.

For the rest, let business and government handle it. Even trumpist governments are working from a bad hand in situations where unvaccinated workers and others cause revenues to drop and costs to rise.

"This is a No Vaxxer Store! Do not shop from No Vaxxers! Shop Pro-Dem Only!"

Star Member Hoyt (48,784 posts)

4. Just pass a law that rubes can't own a gun without a vaccine.

 

The Mouth (2,139 posts)

14. They should be treated *EXACTLY* like

someone walking down the street shooting an AR-15 randomly into the crowd and buildings.

Or someone inciting a riot or other crimes.

Ended.

Dems reducing the ANTI-VAXXER threat.

fescuerescue (2,781 posts)

63. Shot on sight?

Tiannemen square in every city in the country?

Yes. That should reduce the death toll from covid. Just kill half the country.

The Mouth (2,139 posts)

65. Any measure necessary

Hopefully not that, but in a manner appropriate to someone threatening public safety.

Should every rioter be killed? of course not; should someone setting fires or throwing bombs that might kill dozens or hundreds? - what's the greatest good. I would also be OK with the Secret Service protecting President Biden or VP Harris by the use of lethal force if need be.

I'm as much of a free speech extremist as one can be, but promulgating forgoing vaccines is, like 'incitement to riot', a direct and immediate threat to lives. Saying things that will kill thousands and impoverish millions.

 



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Star Member cab67 (1,798 posts)

16. I was called a racist for saying this.

Not here - at a meeting on my campus.

I get that African Americans have good reason to be suspicious of the medical profession, but when lives are on the line, I don't think we should give people a pass on this.

Star Member AZLD4Candidate (466 posts)

19. I got called a racist for wondering why there was Chinese written in a Korean restaurant

by some university student that acted like she knew everything.

Told me "how do you know it isn't Korean." I proceeded to give her a lesson in Korean and Chinese (two languages I speak nearly fluently) and I was still called a racist who hated Asian people (even though I've lived there the last 15 years, own homes there, and my wife is a Chinese national).

Racist today seems to be what being called a Communist was in the 1950s-1960s. It seems to imply "I disagree with you."

Being called a racist for what you said cheapens the word and makes the accusation almost meaningless.

 

Jon King (765 posts)

22. Actually its not the case for measles and other vaccines.....

Anyone can claim a religious exemption and send kids to school without any vaccines. Thats been the case forever and the end result is 95% of kids are vaccinated and thats fine.

We need to stop this nonsense. Get vaccinated, get your family vaccinated, and leave others alone.

The pandemic risks are over for those of us and our families who are vaccinated. Geez, yall can take defeat from the jaws of victory. Time to move on and enjoy life.

And like I said....mandate healthy eating and exercise if you truly want to help the country. Obesity related illness cost more lives and more lost work hours than anything else.

 

Oh, it goes on forever...

machoneman (2,543 posts)

24. A firing squad would almost be too good for them.

 

[SVPete]

Star Member Yavin4 (32,568 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215439854

We should get more aggressive with the anti-vaxxers.

Unless you have a solid medical reason for not getting the vaccine or you're under the age of 12, then there's no reason why you should not get the vaccine. I would propose that all students, over the age of 12, get the vaccine before they're allowed back in the classroom. ...

Well, that'd be another boost to private schools and homeschooling, which have already grown considerably due to teachers union recalcitrance and intransigence. I'm not an anti-vaxxer - I'm getting my second Covid vaccine dose in a few hours - but I oppose mandatory vaccination in PSs.

I wonder if Star Moron Yavin4 knows how many Covid vaccines can be used with youths as young as age 12 (it's more than zero), and how long ago that approval was given. I suspect that, like many/most DUpipo, Star Moron Yavin4 is taking a bold, ignorance-based, party-line, stance.

[SVPete]

Star Member AZLD4Candidate (466 posts)

19. I got called a racist for wondering why there was Chinese written in a Korean restaurant

by some university student that acted like she knew everything.

Told me "how do you know it isn't Korean." I proceeded to give her a lesson in Korean and Chinese (two languages I speak nearly fluently) and I was still called a racist who hated Asian people (even though I've lived there the last 15 years, own homes there, and my wife is a Chinese national).

Racist today seems to be what being called a Communist was in the 1950s-1960s. It seems to imply "I disagree with you."

Being called a racist for what you said cheapens the word and makes the accusation almost meaningless.

Is Arizona Legislative District 4 in Tucson, Tempe/Phoenix, or Flagstaff? ETA: Looks like SW Tucson and farther west. University of Arizona is in Tucson.

The appearance difference between Chinese characters (traditional or simplified) and Korean characters is grossly obvious. Further, Chinese characters are ideographic - each character represents a thing or idea - while Korean characters are phonetic. For "extra credit" traditional Japanese characters are borrowed from China, so a person capable of reading Mandarin or Cantonese can also read written Japanese (to a significant extent). My daughter speaks and reads Mandarin fluently.

If Star Member AZLD4Candidate keeps pointing out truths like how Proggies have made "Racism" a meaningless epithet, he may get pizza delivery despite having contributed to DU.

[DLR Pyro]

and just like that, "My Body, My Choice" has gone right out the window...


This and global warming climate change are proof positive that the left needs a "global level" crisis to get mommy government to step in and step all over our Constitutional rights.

[thundley4]

It is perfectly okay for a person with HIV to lie about it and have unprotected sex with another person. That is literally playing  with someone else's life.

**** you DUmmies and your Nazi wannabe dicktasters in DC.

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Star Member Yavin4 (32,568 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215439854

We should get more aggressive with the anti-vaxxers.

Unless you have a solid medical reason for not getting the vaccine or you're under the age of 12, then there's no reason why you should not get the vaccine. I would propose that all students, over the age of 12, get the vaccine before they're allowed back in the classroom. Sound harsh? That's been school policy for years for the measles, mumps, and other vaccines.

The Mouth (2,139 posts)

14. They should be treated *EXACTLY* like

someone walking down the street shooting an AR-15 randomly into the crowd and buildings.

Or someone inciting a riot or other crimes.

Ended.

Stuff like this is the reason I think of leftists as the masters of false equivalence.

Star Member AZLD4Candidate (466 posts)

19. I got called a racist for wondering why there was Chinese written in a Korean restaurant

by some university student that acted like she knew everything.

Told me "how do you know it isn't Korean." I proceeded to give her a lesson in Korean and Chinese (two languages I speak nearly fluently) and I was still called a racist who hated Asian people (even though I've lived there the last 15 years, own homes there, and my wife is a Chinese national).

Racist today seems to be what being called a Communist was in the 1950s-1960s. It seems to imply "I disagree with you."

Being called a racist for what you said cheapens the word and makes the accusation almost meaningless.

Tut, tut. That's the evironment the left has created.