I take major issue with Joe Biden's work visa plan

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https://democraticunderground.com/100215211788

This could be fun and entertaining if allowed to stand

crimycarny (851 posts)


I take major issue with Joe Biden's work visa plan

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agreed with something Trump did which was to severely restrict H1B visas and to change the lottery system with a wage based system. Joe Biden states he will overturn all of that.

I'm in IT and I can't tell you the number of times that I or someone I know (including my husband) has been laid off and replaced with a cheaper H1B worker. To add insult to injury, in order to get severance we've had to train our replacements. The whole idea behind H1B visas was to allow companies to hire foreign workers WHEN THEY COULDN'T FIND THE EXPERTISE IN THE U.S. So why is the person being replaced by the H1B worker training them?

Well, it just happened again. The company I work for, a major hospital chain, just laid off 75% of IT and outsourced them to foreign workers. We are all training these new workers, many of which lack the experience to do the job. We're talking a hospital and patient safety, not just lost revenue if a system goes down.

Corporations blatantly abuse the H1B visas and it hurts US workers as well as the H1B workers replacing them. The idea behind a wage based system was that an H1B worker had to be paid the same, or more, than his US counterpart. This makes sense to me because if the purpose of the H1B visa is to fill a need that can't be filled by a US worker, then why not pay them a fair wage? Using a wage based system prevents corporations from replacing US workers to please their shareholders, and it prevents the Corporations from grossly underpaying their H1B workers.

Sorry, just so tired of this.

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KC

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yo DUmmy...

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crimycarny (851 posts)


I take major issue with Joe Biden's work visa plan

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agreed with something Trump did which was to severely restrict H1B visas and to change the lottery system with a wage based system. Joe Biden states he will overturn all of that.

I'm in IT and I can't tell you the number of times that I or someone I know (including my husband) has been laid off and replaced with a cheaper H1B worker. To add insult to injury, in order to get severance we've had to train our replacements. The whole idea behind H1B visas was to allow companies to hire foreign workers WHEN THEY COULDN'T FIND THE EXPERTISE IN THE U.S. So why is the person being replaced by the H1B worker training them?

Well, it just happened again. The company I work for, a major hospital chain, just laid off 75% of IT and outsourced them to foreign workers. We are all training these new workers, many of which lack the experience to do the job. We're talking a hospital and patient safety, not just lost revenue if a system goes down.

Corporations blatantly abuse the H1B visas and it hurts US workers as well as the H1B workers replacing them. The idea behind a wage based system was that an H1B worker had to be paid the same, or more, than his US counterpart. This makes sense to me because if the purpose of the H1B visa is to fill a need that can't be filled by a US worker, then why not pay them a fair wage? Using a wage based system prevents corporations from replacing US workers to please their shareholders, and it prevents the Corporations from grossly underpaying their H1B workers.

Sorry, just so tired of this.

The person you voted for says you should learn to code. 

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The person you voted for says you should learn to code. 

The problem is, in this scenario the DUmmy is in IT and probably knows how to code. xidens plan is to bring in foreigners who barely know how to code and have the American coders help them refine their coding skills so they can do the work cheaper than the American coders. 

[SVPete]

So, I work in tech, in Silicon Valley, in tech. If the DU OP's -tale is true and common, why have I, in over 40 years here, never seen it happen. Literally. Never.

I won't say it doesn't happen, only that reality appears to fall well short of the narrative.

Fixed typo

[Crazy Horse]

So, I works in tech, in Silicon Valley, in tech. If the DU OP's -tale is true and common, why have I, in over 40 years here, never seen it happen. Literally. Never.

I won't say it doesn't happen, only that reality appears to fall well short of the narrative.

Well that’s easy, white privilege of course

[SVPete]

  "Works"! Where's me can of spinach?!

I've worked at a couple of companies where a majority of the employees were east Asians working on H1B visas. Welcome to Silicon Valley! BUT none were hired to replace whites/etc. through the process/circumstance crimycarny described. One company is Taiwanese, a marketing and tech support office, where fluency in Mandarin would be very useful. The other is a company founded by Taiwanese immigrant that has significant dealings in Taiwan and China.

I almost posted, "What's DU-Noob crimycarny got against east and south Asians?!", but I remembered that they are second-class POCs, because too many are successful, messing up Progs' Whites keep ethnic minorities down! narrative.

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Lefty: "Those border-jumpers are poor, beleaguered asylum seekers, and they have every right to come into America."

Also Lefty: "THOSE DAMNED VISA-HOLDERS ARE STEALING MY JOBS AND DEPRESSING MY WAGES!"

[SVPete]

Lefty: "Those illegally entering border-jumpers are poor, beleaguered asylum seekers, and they have every right to come into America."

Also Lefty: "THOSE LEGALLY PRESENT DAMNED VISA-HOLDERS ARE STEALING MY JOBS AND DEPRESSING MY WAGES!"

Improving the clarity.

[landofconfusion80]

If you have to train your replacement,  do they do some sort of quality check before you receive severance? Either train them slowly to collect that check or train them wrong, collect the severance and get hired back when things aren't up to snuff with haji.