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Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?
« on: September 21, 2020, 09:10:58 AM »
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Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?

I rather doubt it. It is just too much of a gamble for Republican Senators running in tight races. They do not need the extra burden of explaining their lies to their voters.

They operate in their own self-interests. Many, in my opinion, have concluded that it is better for them politically if they wait until after the election. They do not want to gamble at this point in their races.

Trump and McConnell may not like it but senators in tight races are not ready to sacrifice their careers for Donald Trump at this time.

They, unlike Collins and Murkowski, will choose to keep it quiet behind the scenes. If Trump has not named his nominee by this weekend, I suspect this is the reason why?

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greenjar_01 (2,250 posts)

1. Yes, and it is going to be vicious and an in-your-face flouting of norms and there's nothing

that can be done about it.

Our system is designed for long-term minority government, like a slaver state.

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2. 100% they will, don;t fool yourself as this changes the direction of the court for 25 years

btw, it doesn;t matter if before or after the election as the outcome will be the same

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Star Member BeyondGeography (35,972 posts)

5. Trump will name his nominee promptly and they will have the votes

Romney will come over and that will be the extent of the bleeding. Pence breaks the tie and if it needs to happen before Nov. 30 because of AZ it will.

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Star Member ooky (5,027 posts)

8. Yes. They risk their own base turning on them in the election if they don't.

They also have the option of just saying they will vote on a new SCOTUS judge in the lame duck session as well. But McConnell will want to put the vote to the floor as soon as he has the votes.

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9. Nov 4 2020

So as to avoid any voter backlash. They will not consider anything until Nov 4.

Remember the R motto -- Elections (not crimes by us) have consequences

That way they get a RW nut job on the court to turn back gay marriage, interracial marriage, EEOC, ACA, Roe v Wade, Tinker v Des Moines, etc, etc, etc

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Star Member MineralMan (133,078 posts)

16. There will be threats.

Heavy ones. Those GOP Senators who are facing close races in their states will receive a great deal of pressure from McConnell and others. I hope that some of them have it in them to put on their stainless steel jockstraps and do the right thing. However, I have little confidence in my hope.

The left is already sending out death threats and rioting over it.

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17. You need to remember that Senators are state elections

I know you know that... but I don't think you've considered which republican senators have competitive races and which states those are in.

Other than Collins and maybe McSally, most of them are more likely to "sacrifice their careers" if they don't back Trump's nominee. They all have conservative bases that they can't win without. Collins is in a completely different position, where even her republican voters lean comparatively left.

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18. I think more may in close races than we now think.

At least, I hope so.

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Re: Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2020, 10:10:49 AM »
My opinion is that they won't. Unless the Dems and other crazies go repellently nuclear-crazy ...
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Re: Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2020, 05:54:17 PM »
Did kentuck (???????) forget what happened to Heitkamp, McCaskell, and O'Donnell after they voted against Justice Kavanaugh? They are now all FORMER Senators because of it. You can bet that Manchin and the dude from Alabama are looking at that and sweating bullets.
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Re: Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2020, 07:28:51 AM »
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1. Yes, and it is going to be vicious and an in-your-face flouting of norms and there's nothing

that can be done about it.

Our system is designed for long-term minority government, like a slaver state.
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Re: Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2020, 08:38:03 AM »
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1. ...

Our system is designed for long-term minority government, like a slaver state.

No, our government is designed to hinder majorities from oppressing and exploiting minorities. That said, "Blue Slips", the filibuster, and requiring a super-majority to end debate are not in the US Constitution. They have been part of Senate rules (the House doesn't allow filibusters), which the USC allows the Senate to create or change as needed or desired. The Ds created the need for change when they used the super-majority rule in 1991 and 1992 to block G. H. W. Bush's judicial nominees and to block G. W. Bush's judicial nominees for much of his two terms as President.
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Re: Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2020, 10:52:28 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on September 21, 2020, 10:10:49 AM
My opinion is that they won't. Unless the Dems and other crazies go repellently nuclear-crazy ...

I'm hearing noises that my opinion might be wrong. Hopefully I am.
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Re: Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2020, 11:54:50 AM »
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Sen. Mitt Romney announced Tuesday morning that he supports holding a vote on President Trump’s nominee to replace Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

“The Constitution gives the president the power to nominate and the Senate the authority to provide advice and consent on Supreme Court nominees,” Romney, a Republican senator from Utah, said in a statement. “Accordingly, I intend to follow the Constitution and precedent in considering the president’s nominee. If the nominee reaches the Senate floor, I intend to vote based upon their qualifications.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mitt-romney-support-trump-supreme-court-ruth-bader-ginsburg-nominee-145238691.html

doesn't say how he would vote, but at least he's for holding a vote
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Re: Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2020, 12:24:26 PM »
Quote from: DLR Pyro on September 22, 2020, 11:54:50 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mitt-romney-support-trump-supreme-court-ruth-bader-ginsburg-nominee-145238691.html

doesn't say how he would vote, but at least he's for holding a vote
He hopes it will give him cover for voting no later on the nominee.
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Re: Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2020, 12:32:05 PM »
I have a newsflash for these poorly-disguised kiddy conspiracy theorists. Republican senators who are up for reelection are far, far more concerned about pissing off the Republican base who will undoubtedly punish them if they don't vote to confirm a justice that will help save the country. These are the same Republican voters who have witnessed months of Biden campaign rallies disguised as civic violence, have had their businesses severely affected if not totally bankrupt, and are now facing an onslaught of fraudulent mail-in ballots that won't be effectively dealt with at the judicial level with no constitutional ruling at SCOTUS.

UNDOUBTEDLY, this is why I believe that Romney and Murkowski are waffling on their decision to confirm. Romney even hinted he will vote for a "qualified" jurist; since every pick Trump makes is qualified beyond by any standards of excellence, this shouldn't be an issue, so if Romney back-flips, it's on him and not the justice. Suffice to say that Romney is getting an earful from his Utah constituents; same with Murkowski in Alaska. (I would even image Collins in Maine is getting some flak, but her race is another matter.)

As for Democrat voters... ANY Democrat motivation to vote has already been dialed up to 11. Dialing it up to 13 won't make a difference.
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