I am seriously thinking of leaving the country if He is re-elected

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Star Member PCIntern (19,904 posts)
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I am seriously thinking of leaving the country if He is re-elected

The answer to the obvious question is that I do not want to live with a people who would do this again. Period. I can practice dentistry anywhere or teach. I can barely deal with this now much less if he’s validated as a leader.

I have professional and academic connections in Israel and despite everything going on there, at least I can return to my roots for my final years. There is very little left for me here in any sense. And yes, I can still contribute here on DU!!!

 

Star Member murielm99 (26,477 posts)

1. Given how disease-ridden we are here, will another country let you in?

Star Member DemocratSinceBirth (94,991 posts)

22. Israel has a nationalist government too.

Love the Jewish state, hate the nationalism.

Star Member Siwsan (15,657 posts)

2. I wish that was an option for me but even if it was, Canada's border is closed.

And that's just one thing among other obstacles. Even if the borders were open, I'm retired so my only hope for consideration is that my financial portfolio is good enough for them to see I am totally self-supporting. And I think even that would be a long shot for consideration.

My total fantasy escape would be to a cottage, somewhere in the wilds of the north of Wales. That's an even longer shot than Canada. So, if the worst happens, my only option is to just sit and wait for history and/or nature to take its course. I'd certainly take no extra measures to stick around.

Star Member Siwsan (15,657 posts)

26. My maternal grandfather immigrated from somewhere in eastern Europe

I THINK, but might be wrong, that he came from what was the old Austro/Hungarian empire, or somewhere near that part of the continent. My cousin went back to see the area, and just RAVES about it.

As for me, I feel more identification with my paternal family - western Europe.

 

Star Member lark (16,593 posts)

3. Us too.

We have friends in NZ in one of the less populous areas and they have said we could come live there and even buy a house. They keep calling us telling us our government is trying to kill us and we need to move there for sanity and safety's sake. If the nazis steal the election again, I don't think I can take it here. I really don't want to move so far away, but we can't get into Canada - already tried. Mainly, though, I don't want to live here under a nazi regime that will come out of the shadows and destroy the working class and retirement system by stealing it all for the rich.

 

Meowmee (1,343 posts)

4. We most likely will end up

Back in Canada at some point either full or part time. We are citizens so they have to let us back, I expect there will be a quarantine for covid etc still by then. For me it will mean retirement. I think the economy will totally sink if what we all fear happens.

 

Star Member lpbk2713 (38,408 posts)

6. Don't pack your bags just yet. I don't think it's likely.
He would need so much help from Putin that it would have to be obvious in
some respect. They couldn't pull off a crime that big without being noticed.

 

Castiel (19 posts)

112. I think the Postal Service sabotage is enough

considering how many people are voting by mail this year.

Star Member marybourg (8,241 posts)

7. I know how you feel. I am to old to leave now, but I felt the exact same way in 2012 for Obama’s second term. DH and I were steeling ourselves to move south to Mexico if Obama was rejected.

This situation is far more dire. I truly don’t think our democracy could survive another term of the malevolent nincompoop. But I don’t think it will come to that. I think we and your patients will still be lucky enough to keep you with us for the immediate future.

Fiendish Thingy (4,449 posts)

14. I moved to BC in 2012, haven't regretted a single day

If Trump is re-elected, I will be renouncing my US citizenship, and probably assisting my kids and their spouses to immigrate here.

Since the Bush years, US citizens immigrating to Canada has doubled.

Since the Trump years, US citizens renouncing their citizenship has reached record highs.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/09/us/us-citizenship-renounced-data-trnd/index.html

Buckeyeblue (2,338 posts)

19. I'm not leaving but I might sell everything and live in an RV

As long as I have internet I can work my job. But I can drift around and stay mostly off the grid. And stay mostly away from people. I plan on doing this anyway at some point but might be willing to accelerate my plans.

 

rso (423 posts)

36. Trump

Please no, we need to fight him with all we have. Leaving the Country and thus reducing his opposition is precisely what Donnie and his sycophants want us to do.

sanatanadharma (613 posts)

39. My partner and I started our expat planning before 2016

We reduced decades of sedentary life in Oregon to 3 suitcases and carry-on for each of us.
In April 2018 we arrived in Uruguay with our paperwork in order and have been given legal residency.

The country is modern, progressive (hope it so remains), with good health care and (so far) a low covid-19 problem; 42 deaths, 215 currently hospitalized out of 1521 positives since March in a population near 3.4 million.

Montevideo is not cheap but our modest living expenses are less than they were in Oregon. Our apartment has a million-dollar view and costs no more than the Oregon apartment that looked out upon an alley.
In a large city I can avoid having to socialize with other Americans.

Star Member roamer65 (21,421 posts)

70. I would move to a bluer state or region.

It may not be part of the US after a stolen election.

BBbats (47 posts)

81. I was hoping to be an expat.

A friend of mine is an Irish citizen. He's also a drummer in a oldies rock band over there. He wanted me to come over & play bass for his band.Would have been two weeks in Ireland,two weeks in the Netherlands and six weeks in Spain where they tour every year.I was also going to try and stay in Ireland. A member of the band has a vinyl record/CD/music shop and would give me a job(I'm very expert on vinyl records.Been selling them for years) Irish government permitting. Had the paperwork in order. Got a work permit for the tour and was working on a residency permit. Then in March the Covid hit the fan and cancelled everything.

I am terrified of Trump getting in again.I'm elderly now (67).A 2nd Trump term will destroy this country. Kiss medicare & Social Security goodbye.Biden does not have this in the bag, Come to my town(suburb of Philadelpia PA) and see and hear the huge amount of Trump supporters that live here. People have had their cars keyed for having a Joe Biden bumper sticker. I can't tell you how many times I've had a drink in the bar and heard some dimwit say "Trump is the greatest president in my lifetime". I'm not kidding. I just don't understand it! What do these people see in him? Is it because he validates their racism? Their hatred? I don't get it!

If I could leave I would but it's not likely. I guess I'll stay & do my best to be more active in the campaign & fight the best I can.

I'm scared!

Star Member DFW (38,764 posts)

92. To be fair, "we" didn't do it last time.

Three million more votes for Hillary, though more than enough for victory in countries that hold fair elections, was not enough last time, and under dubious circumstances, at that. Should it happen again, no concession speeches will be forthcoming this time. A repeat of 2016 will be taken as a declaration of Civil War, and I think everyone knows it.

 

GusBob (5,942 posts)

102. Do what I did. I made the promise in 2016

Indian Health Service

I live and work on an Indian Reservation
A sovereign nation and they all hate Trump

Dentists make a killing in our clinic

 

Buckeye_Democrat (7,683 posts)

114. The USA isn't family. It's just a job.

This economic unit can't tolerate four more years of the drudgery under Trump.

Dial H For Hero (292 posts)

119. We hear this every four years. You may well leave if he wins, but 99.9% (at least) of those who say

they will leave....won't.

 

[SVPete]

A song about a dentist, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODV6mxVVRZk

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Buckeye_Democrat (7,683 posts)

114. The USA isn't family. It's just a job.

This economic unit can't tolerate four more years of the drudgery under Trump.

Best economy pretty much ever before COVID hit and already pulling out of that tailspin caused by the Chinese with the help of the democrats. 

And WHO is destroying cities all over America?  Why it is the left!  The democrats have themselves away when they made their convention logo = Death 2 America.

[ADsOutburst]

Did that poster really capitalize "He" in referring to Trump?

I never expected such reverence for the president from DU. 

[franksolich]

DFW (38,764 posts)

92. To be fair, "we" didn't do it last time.

Three million more votes for Hillary, though more than enough for victory in countries that hold fair elections, was not enough last time, and under dubious circumstances, at that. Should it happen again, no concession speeches will be forthcoming this time. A repeat of 2016 will be taken as a declaration of Civil War, and I think everyone knows it.

Marc needs to take some sedatives and calm down.

It's not healthy for a man his age and bulk to get all worked up about something.

[freedumb2003b]

DFW (38,764 posts)

92. To be fair, "we" didn't do it last time.

Three million more votes for Hillary, though more than enough for victory in countries that hold fair elections, was not enough last time, and under dubious circumstances, at that. Should it happen again, no concession speeches will be forthcoming this time. A repeat of 2016 will be taken as a declaration of Civil War, and I think everyone knows it.

Marc needs to take some sedatives and calm down.

It's not healthy for a man his age and bulk to get all worked up about something.

Right out of Phantom, there Frank!

The LAST think the left wants is a civil war.  The military is by and large conservative and WE HAVE ALL THE GUNS!

[DLR Pyro]

Star Member PCIntern (19,904 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213956355

I am seriously thinking of leaving the country if He is re-elected

let's have less thinking and more doing...

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Buckeyeblue (2,338 posts)

19. I'm not leaving but I might sell everything and live in an RV

As long as I have internet I can work my job. But I can drift around and stay mostly off the grid. And stay mostly away from people. I plan on doing this anyway at some point but might be willing to accelerate my plans.

My bother and SIL are full-time RVers.  NOT off the grid.

You need:
* Credit Card
* 1 or 2 ISPs
* Physical mailing address
* Cell phone
And if you work 100% on the internet you need a bank account.

[freedumb2003b]

let's have less thinking and more doing...

We should start a GoFundMe to assist unhappy lefties to permanently exit the country.

[Wineslob]

I'm STILL waiting for all the celebs..........

[Delmar]

Response to PCIntern (Original post)Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:31 PM
Star Member Stinky The Clown (61,622 posts)
110. You assume borders will be open to you.

That's not a sure thing.

Why are they so worried about whether those other countries will take them?  All the primitives need to do is put on their Yo no creo en fronteras t-shirts, form up a caravan, and head for the nearest border.  I'm sure all those other countries will welcome them with open arms.  All they have to do is declare that they are seeking asylum from Trump's handmaidens tale fascist Amerikkka and the gates will swing open.

[67 Rover]

Why are they so worried about whether those other countries will take them?  All the primitives need to do is put on their Yo no creo en fronteras t-shirts, form up a caravan, and head for the nearest border.  I'm sure all those other countries will welcome them with open arms.  All they have to do is declare that they are seeking asylum from Trump's handmaidens tale fascist Amerikkka and the gates will swing open.

Now they are concerned with borders? 

[zeitgeist]

We should start a GoFundMe to assist unhappy lefties to permanently exit the country.

Mui bueno jeffe!   I think that is exactly what DU should DU, establish DUGO  a gofundme  fund.  And of course, it should be from each according to his worth to each according to his need. 

Why should the rich, famous, socialite DUmmies be the only ones able to become expats?  Send them the tired, poor huddled DU_massed yearning to assist in the Marxist revolutions of South American countries. 

Oh wait, they all want to go to Wales, and other Anglican domains?  Nicht Gut!!   Nicht Gut!!   

And what about Africa?  Why is no one signing up to head there??    I'm looking at you Lebron James.

Look in the mirror DUmmies. There you will find the people you despise.