http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3857235Oh my.
Suji to Seoul (29 posts) Tue Aug-26-08 07:45 AM
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DU. . .help me. I'm growing tired of a good friend of mine's blindless.
So, he posts this video on myspace about Obama's "muslim ties." Like a fool, I watch about two minutes of it and gag.
I send him this.
It took me about two minutes before I ****ing threw up.
You can't be serious that you support this fear-mongering racism!?!
He responds:
Somehow I knew you would react to this, so I ask you this: Where is the racism? Oh, and it doesn't put fear in me, because I know that once the truth comes out, Barack will not be elected. You can't be serious that you support this communist!?1 The only fear here is your fear that Barack will not get elected, and that's the only reason you react.
P.S. Jerome Corsi's new book is at the NY Times bestseller in the #1 spot. Tell Barack Hussein Obama I said good luck.
I reply:
The racism is in the idea that a man's name is who he is as a person. We are at "war" with terrorism, not Muslims and not Islam. Are we to condemn the all the world's muslims as unfit to be elected president?
A friend of ours has a Hebrew name. Does that mean he is a Mossad agent?
I'd rather support the "communist" than the "free market fascism" of John W. McBush.
PS: Corsi's book as a little asterisk next to it on the Times Bestseller List, meaning the book is being bulk ordered to prop up sales. So, the listing is completely fraudulent. . .like your candidate, who I know more about than you because I'm originally from Arizona.
He replies:
Barack's name is not the central point of the video. It's his association with people that say "G-d da** America" and people like Bill Ayers who like to bomb the Pentagon. A person develops most of his/her political ideas from mentors, parents, etc., and people that Obama associates with are not necessarily the people that America likes.
Remember, voting is all about the voter's opinion, and if the voter is going to vote for a candidate, does he/she not have a right to know his background? And you would rather be a communist as opposed to living in a free market republic? History will tell you that communism has not worked. (Take the Soviet Union for example, which fell in 1991 at the hands of President Reagan) And Obama's vision for America is similar to that of Jimmy Carter, one of the worst presidents in the history of the United States. Like my mother always told me: "If you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas".
P.S. The fact that the book was bulk ordered still means that people are reading it and finding out the truth. The Obama campaign is merely running damage control with that 40 page "rebuttal". Notice when you read it that they only repute the small details. If David Axelrod were truly smart, he would rebuke Barack's choice of mentors and political influences.
I come back with:
First: Reagan wasn't president in 1991. And the botched Soviet invasion of Afghanistan did more to kill the USSR than Reagan did.
Second: If we are going to bring up "assocations," how about Charles Keating and McCain being named in the Keating Five, which bilked and swindled billions from people?
Third: If we are going to talk about judgement, how about McCain dumping his wife for a younger, hotter, richer bimbo that financed his campaign?
Fourth: You do know that, on World Nut Daily, Corsi slammed McCain, linking Cindy's wealth to the mafia and saying Al-Qaeda wanted John McCain?
Fifth: Bulk book sales means the book is being bought by typical right wing sources and being given away, put on mailing lists, etc. The people who would read trash by Jerome Corsi wouldn't vote for Obama in the first place. Most would enjoy their hood and sheets during the day, since Corsi has been exposed in the past as an authentic bigot and wack-job.
Sixth: Why should Obama do a "point-by-point" rebuttal of lies that have been disproved? Corsi cites himself, right wing bloggers and other dubious sources. Jerome Corsi is a piece of trash.
Finally: This entire anti-Obama rhetoric by these right wing pundits is truly beginning to sound like "Keep the (enter bad word for black person) Out" without so much as the decency to come clean and use the "n-word."[/i]
He comes back with:
1st: I didn't say Reagan was president in 1991. George H.W. Bush was. A lot of stuff that he accomplished as president led to the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. The Soviets were already circling the drain when they invaded Afghanistan.
2nd: McCain was never convicted, and was also re-elected. The only ones that were convicted were all Democrats.
3rd: People do that everyday, it's a part of society now. And better to finance the campaign with one's own wealth, as opposed to the Clintons, who had hundreds of thousands of illegal campaign contributions.
4th: It's not smart to talk about the mafia. You could be swimming with the fishes tomorrow.
5th: Not everybody that reads the book is in the KKK. I read the book, am I in the KKK?
6th: A citation is a citation. The fact that there are so many backing up Corsi from legitimate sources is the only reason you are pissed off.
Finally: The so-called "pundits" would've been against him if he was white. I would've been against him if he was white, Native American, Oriental, etc.(Which by the way, a ("n" word for black person) can be black or white. By definition, it's an ignorant person; society just seems to think it only relates to black people, and that is racist in itself)[/i]
He's a good guy, just a Freeper (at 22 years old). No, he can't serve. . .he's physically handicapped, but I am tired of him thinking he has an argument when all he does it spout lies after right wing lie. Help! How do I respond to him that will
a) shut him up
b) prove he's wrong
c) possibly accept how racist he's being
d) end this.
I never back down from a political fight, but the bullheadedness of my buddy is just getting to me.
When it comes to bullheadness, the sushi primitive's obviously never met other Obamaite primitives.
Catch22Dem (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-26-08 07:50 AM
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2. Lost cause. Why bother? **** him.
tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-26-08 07:51 AM
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3. He sounds hopeless. At least for the next several years.
Just encourage him to vote for Barr and leave it at that.
hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-26-08 07:53 AM
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4. You can't argue with someone whose mind is not only made up but nailed and padlocked shut.
"Trying to teach a pig to sing only wastes your time and annoys the pig"
Oh my. An Obamaite primitive trying to learn to sing.
