Trump is not the real problem.

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Star Member CloudWatcher (478 posts)
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Trump is not the real problem.
Of course, Trump and his sycophants are horrific.

But Trump is a symptom, not the problem.
Remember why they are in power.
Remember who put them there.

Hint: We should not just blame Trump.

Focus on the cause.

There will always be narcissists and demagogues.
There will always be con artists, grifters and crooks.
There will always be truly evil people willing to do anything for power.

But ... who is to blame for Trump?

Blame income inequality that allows dynasties.
Blame the news media for selling us entertainment instead of news.
Blame the "both sides" and "whatabout" reporters that haven't a clue.
Blame our election system that allows billions of dollars worth of free TV exposure.
Blame TV viewers that can't distinguish a con from a scholar.
Blame our education system that fails to teach critical thinking.
Blame politicians that choose power over country.
Blame religion that teaches faith in autocracy.
Blame everyone that accepts dogma over science.

Hold them all accountable. Make them change.

Make us change.

We'll always have Trumps and Putins and Erdoğans. We need not allow them power.

We must learn from our mistakes and change what is wrong.

Quickly. Because we are running out of time.

It's different this time. It's not just our governments at stake. It's the Earth.

Without real change, disaster is unavoidable. We may have already passed the tipping point.

If we fail, our children's grandchildren will broil. Or drown. Or starve.

The clock is ticking.

Make a difference. Pick something that is most important to you.

Review your skills. Grow them. Join with others.

Get angry. Stay angry. Fight.

Fix the system so that it is robust in the face of intolerance, corruption and science denial.

Fight as if you can hear the childrens' screams.

 

Star Member Wounded Bear (33,108 posts)

4. Trump is the tip of the iceberg...

The Repubs have been hiding this shit for decades and it's finally out in the open.

Snackshack (1,192 posts)

8. All good points that in the...

long view have contributed. Having said that I blame the GOP....DT was despicable as a candidate so they knew before voting for him what he was. Since he won* he has not changed just became more embolden and the GOP has created new contorted positions to cover for him. All so they can have the power of a majority in the Senate to appoint judges and dismantle the social programs enacted since FDR.

The lengths the GOP has gone too to cover for DT has resulted in them tossing out all of the values they have touted as being the party of for years...Rule of Law, Patriotism, Defense, The Constitution, Faith. Unless we are already in a dictatorship and don’t know it yet and the GOP expects to be a permanent majority and hold the WH permanently I don’t see how they think that when DT is gone (if he leaves) how they will ever be taken seriously by anyone in the world that is not a part of the 30% base they have. They can never be trusted again to put country before party. World leaders will never trust them again. I don’t how they continue to exist short a coup where they get rid of elections and declare DT president for life. That what DT wants because he know once he loses the protection of the office indictments will be coming.

About the *. I think President Carter was right back in summer of 2019 when he said that he thinks a full/comprehensive investigation of the 2016 election and the Russian impact on it in specific states would show DT did not win. He actually lost the popular vote by 3M votes. So speculations about why voters voted trump in office is moot.

 

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tar Member pangaia (24,209 posts)

15. To simplify your inclusive statement---



Blame REPUBLICANS !!!!!!!!

Star Member CloudWatcher (478 posts)

20. Republicans?

The issues are more global. The GOP is certainly deserving of being wiped out (politically speaking), but the US is far from the only culprit in not doing enough to protect the vast majority of people that struggle to survive here.

Star Member pangaia (24,209 posts)

22. Yes, republicans. And the whole concept of republicans and what they stand for..

THIS--

"Blame income inequality that allows dynasties.
Blame the news media for selling us entertainment instead of news.
Blame the "both sides" and "whatabout" reporters that haven't a clue.
Blame our election system that allows billions of dollars worth of free TV exposure.
Blame TV viewers that can't distinguish a con from a scholar.
Blame our education system that fails to teach critical thinking.
Blame politicians that choose power over country.
Blame religion that teaches faith in autocracy.
Blame everyone that accepts dogma over science."

Oh, they are not totally alone,, but.. consider a 'wider' definition of 'republicans....'

Of course on the other hand there are the Maos and the Stalins,
BUT at least their underlying principal was, supposedly, to actually help people... 'course, it didn't exactly work out that way.

Star Member NRaleighLiberal (49,129 posts)

16. media for sure, esp right wing hate radio and tv propaganda works, sadly.

Star Member certainot (6,260 posts)

60. hate radio. the root cause, doomed by artificial intelligence as soon as dems stop ignoring it

it's the only medium that can do the unchallenged repetition to create the alternate reality. fox is the cartoon cliff notes that gets all the attention, a distraction while RW radio short circuits democracy with made-to-order constituencies that media pretends are bigger and popular and widespread than they really are because liberals never point it out. it doesn't even get polled for.

that's why we get idiots like chris mathews saying this country is 50-50 and the dem candidate has to be conservative/moderate

these are symptoms of ignoring 1500 coordinated single message propaganda monopoly that short circuits the fact-based discussions a democracy would use to fix them:

Blame income inequality that allows dynasties.
Blame the news media for selling us entertainment instead of news.
Blame the "both sides" and "whatabout" reporters that haven't a clue.
Blame our election system that allows billions of dollars worth of free TV exposure.
Blame TV viewers that can't distinguish a con from a scholar.
Blame our education system that fails to teach critical thinking.
Blame politicians that choose power over country.
Blame religion that teaches faith in autocracy.
Blame everyone that accepts dogma over science.


artificial intelligence means talk radio can now be digitized and analyzed on a large scale quickly and cheaply and apparently theres a new effort to do that coming. the dem party and big orgs should be doing it

Mr.Bill (7,816 posts)

30. It is not coincidental that religion relies on a lot of these things.

Historically much of what has gone wrong involved religion. It doesn't have to be that way. Religion is also involved in much that is right and good.

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tar Member BigmanPigman (31,967 posts)

43. You don't need to tell me to be angry and stay that way.

I have been angry for most of my life, probably since I am a passionate person, an individualist and very stubborn. I don't care if a MAGAT says something mean and stupid but I do care enough to fight for my country's future through activism.

Star Member Hekate (58,941 posts)

56. Was discussing, last night, how widely the infection spreads, how DJT is the tip of the boil...

"Shoot the dictator and prevent the war? But the dictator is merely the tip of the whole festering boil of social pus from which dictators emerge; shoot one, and there’ll be another one along in a minute. Shoot him too? Why not shoot everyone and invade Poland? In fifty years’, thirty years’, ten years’ time the world will be very nearly back on its old course. History always has a great weight of inertia.”
SIR TERRY PRATCHETT, Lords & Ladies

Pratchett just tosses these bits of social commentary in as they occur to him -- in this case into a story about an Elf invasion -- and they stick in my mind like a burr.

Eventually Trump will drop dead, probably of natural causes, but our work will go on and on. This is a life-threatening systemic infection in our country -- but the fight will go on.

live love laugh (3,735 posts)

66. RepubLIEcons created the problems listed

They also created and cover up for Trump. And if you get rid of Trump they have plenty like him or worse to falsely “elect” and replace him.

 

Star Member cstanleytech (19,630 posts)

68. The real problem is as it has always been Republicans in the House, Senate and at

the State level of government.

 

[DUmpsterDiver]

>Star Member NRaleighLiberal (49,129 posts)  media for sure, esp right wing hate radio and tv propaganda works, sadly.

While you DUmbocrats praise the islam trash with their poisoning their youth with mohamhead dogma and butchery of women,
and try to cover your idiocy by blaming the party that freed the slaves.  Man, you are really dumb.

Go copulate a warm, green tomato...or a goat if you prefer.

[DLR Pyro]

They blame everyone and everything except their own party who are really responsible for their losses because of their shitty anti American platform and the equally shitty candidates they expect American voters to accept.

[YupItsMe]

I might be going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing we're probably supporting a guy who's screen name is Cloud Watcher.

[BadCat]

Hold them all accountable. Make them change.

Try it if you'd like to see what a copper jacketed lead enema feels like.

[SVPete]

TL;DR. Are we all still denizens of the Basket of Deplorables?

[DUmpDiver]

I blame President Trump for doing his best to follow through on his campaign promises to make America great again.

Four more years!