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Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« on: August 13, 2017, 10:12:18 AM »
BEDMINSTER, N.J. (August 13, 2017) — President Donald Trump on Saturday blamed “many sides” for the violent clashes between protesters and white supremacists in Virginia and contended that the “hatred and bigotry” broadcast across the country had taken root long before his political ascendancy.

That was not how the Charlottesville mayor assessed the chaos that led the governor to declare a state of emergency, contending that Trump’s campaign fed the flames of prejudice.

Speaking slowly from a podium set up in the golf clubhouse, Trump said that he had just spoken to Gov. Terry McAuliffe, D-Va. “We agreed that the hate and the division must stop, and must stop right now. We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation and ... true affection for each other,” he said.

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides,” said Trump. “It’s been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump. Not Barack Obama. It’s been going on for a long, long time.”

The president said that “what is vital now is a swift restoration of law and order and the protection of innocent lives.”

Following Trump’s comment, several Republicans pushed for a more explicit denunciation of white supremacists.

Colorado Sen. Cory Gardner tweeted “Mr. President - we must call evil by its name. These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism.”

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio wrote “Nothing patriotic about #Nazis,the #KKK or #WhiteSupremacists It’s the direct opposite of what #America seeks to be.”

And even New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a staunch Trump supporter, wrote: “We reject the racism and violence of white nationalists like the ones acting out in Charlottesville. Everyone in leadership must speak out.”

White nationalists had assembled in Charlottesville to vent their frustration against the city’s plans to take down a statue of Confederal Gen. Robert E. Lee. Counter-protesters massed in opposition. A few hours after violent encounters between the two groups, a car drove into a crowd of people peacefully protesting the rally. The driver was later taken into custody.

Disturbances began Friday night during a torch-lit march through the University of Virginia before escalating Saturday.

The White House was silent for hours except for a tweet from first lady Melania Trump: “Our country encourages freedom of speech, but let’s communicate w/o hate in our hearts.”

In his remarks Saturday, Trump mentioned the strong economy and “the many incredible things in our country, so when I watch Charlottesville, to me it’s very, very sad.”

https://www.onenewsnow.com/ap/united-states/trump-many-sides-to-blame-for-violent-clashes-in-va

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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2017, 10:14:23 AM »
by David M. Drucker | Aug 12, 2017

Rift between Republicans and Trump widens after his Charlottesville reaction

President Trump's milquetoast response to a protest by white supremacists that turned violent Saturday in Charlottesville, Va., was rebuked by Republicans in Congress — another breach in the growing rift between the commander in chief and his presumed allies on Capitol Hill.

Trump, in a series of tweets and statements, condemned hate and violence on "many sides." But, the president treated the matter largely as a problem of law and order after violence erupted between white supremacists and counter-protesters who showed up to denounce them, declining to specifically call out the racists who marched in his name or the virulent, neo-Nazi ideology that fuels their fringe movement.

It wasn't good enough for congressional Republicans, who expressed profound disappointment with the leader of their political party, and took to his favorite venue, Twitter, to pointedly criticize his remarks. And it wasn't just typical Trump critics— some who are expected to work closely with the White House in the run-up to the 2018 elections also criticized the president.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rift-between-republicans-and-trump-widens-after-his-charlottesville-reaction/article/2631379


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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2017, 10:30:25 AM »
Gov. McAuliffe in Charlottesville ‘No Place in America’ for Alt-Right, Refuses to Condemn AntiFa



In brief, what transpired amounted to a disgusting and unwelcome throwback to segregationist ideas and rhetoric at a time when patriotic conservatism is gaining ground. While many media minutes and deliberations will be afforded to the fascistic right, almost none will be dedicated to the fascistic left.

On Main Street, after the initial violence, hard leftists sang songs, re-purposing Lady Gaga’s hit song “Paparazzi” with the words “pop a Nazi”. One man told me he was told it was the “wrong day to be white in this town,” while the abandoned stores and bars sported signs that read: “We kindly ask to respect our policy to not bring weapons inside our restaurant or on our patio”.

In the mid afternoon — after protesters were run over by a car, leaving one dead — stick-wielding left-wing activists roamed the streets aimlessly in groups of four or five. One such group screamed: “F**k Donald Trump,” as a girl — clearly unrelated to either side — walked past them.



A few hours later, McAuliffe took the opportunity to address the nation from the stage of the Albemarle County office building, flanked by local officials, as well as a man in a t-shirt which read “Menace II Supremacy”.

McAuliffe flipped back and forth between urging for calm and unity, and demanding division while insisting pro-Confederate statue protesters were persona non grata in his Commonwealth.

He lauded presidents Jefferson and Washington, but ran entirely contrary to their commitments to free speech by declaring of protesters: “There is no place for you in America”.

Instead of a call for dialogue, or even trying to explain what would be a totally reasonable and easily-made argument against flying Nazi flags or torch-lit demonstrations, he chose to further drive a wedge, as did those who flanked him on stage.

“They’re going to be in the trash heap of history,” said the Charlottesville mayor, while police chief Al Thomas defended the police strategy on the day. Despite having had weeks of notice, as well granting a protest permit to alt-right protesters, there were three fatalities and many injured. In an oddly nativist tone, he declared “outsiders do not tell our story”.

The media tone is also evidently one-sided. While no one — including this website — would take up the cause of defending the actions of the alt right or Nazi flag wavers, it is important to note how quickly many have chosen to lump the blame at the doorstep of President Donald Trump.

CNN issued a push notification to app users’ mobile devices around 8:30pm local time stating: “President Trump fails to condemn the alt-right and white supremacists in his statement about violence in Charlottesville, Virginia”.


No such accusations were hurled by the establishment media at Democrat leaders when a Bernie Sanders supporter shot at Republican congressmen in June.

In brief, it can be said with demonstrable authority that while Republicans and conservatives are very swift to decry extremists claiming to act in the name of their causes, the left do no such thing. In fact, they continue to fund and support antiFa and radical elements in their ranks, scarcely asked questions by the establishment media, and without any contritition for the divisions caused as a result.

I asked Gov. McAuliffe four times tonight to condemn in equal measure the violence of antiFa. I didn’t want him to rescind criticism of the alt right. I didn’t expect him to be nuanced. But I did think — perhaps foolishly — that he might want to distance himself from violent tactics on both sides. I supposed wrong.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/12/gov-mcauliffe-in-charlottesville-no-place-in-america-for-alt-right-refuses-to-condemn-antifa/

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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2017, 10:33:15 AM »
Ted Cruz Calls On Justice Department To Investigate Charlottesville Attack As Domestic Terrorism

Fields has been charged with second-degree murder in the case.

Little is known about Fields. He is a registered Republican, and a social media posting from one of his family members indicates that Fields entered the military in 2015. The family member stated that he was headed to boot camp. It is unclear if Fields is on active duty.

Cruz pulled no punches in his statement.

“The Nazis, the KKK, and white supremacists are repulsive and evil, and all of us have a moral obligation to speak out against the lies, bigotry, anti-Semitism, and hatred that they propagate,” he said.

“These bigots want to tear our country apart, but they will fail. America is far better than this.”

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/12/ted-cruz-calls-on-justice-department-to-investigate-charlottesville-attack-as-domestic-terrorism/

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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2017, 10:41:44 AM »
Who is Behind the Police Stepping Aside and Ignoring Facist Antifa Violence at Events Around the US?

For over a year at nearly every event NOT sponsored by Leftist Democrat and Black Lives Matter groups, the Police have stepped aside and allowed horrendous acts of criminal violence against event participants while rarely arresting anyone committing these heinous acts.

These violent groups, like Facist Antifa, are now inciting murder at these events.   Who is allowing this to happen?  Will the FBI please investigate these groups and who is ordering the police to allow them to commit violence?

Yesterday at a white supremacist event in Charlottesville, Virginia, people were killed. Violent fascist rioters like Antifa were there en masse to shut down the event.

One bold reporter by the name of Faith Goldy was neary five feet from where individuals were mowed down after being run over by a lunatic in a car.  Goldy noted that the police were no where to be found when the incident occurred. 
(We at the GWP in no way support white fascists but we also do not support or condone violent acts against these same individuals.)

The white supremacists were told to disband and discontinue their protest but the Black Lives Matter and Antifa thugs were allowed to continue their protesting.

Antifa and Black Lives Matter were still protesting when the car appeared out of nowhere and ran over people.

The ACLU also confirmed that police were given stand down orders.

    ACLU confirms that police were given stand-down order. This invited the violence the city used to shut down a court-permitted protest. https://t.co/FQUhcYaIIm

    — Robert Barnes (@Barnes_Law) August 12, 2017

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/draft-who-is-behind-the-police-stepping-aside-and-ignoring-facist-antifa-violence-at-events-around-the-us/

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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2017, 10:44:03 AM »
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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2017, 10:50:45 AM »
I see Trump is getting the "Nothing you do is or ever will be sufficient" treatment.

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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2017, 11:20:59 AM »
I see Trump is getting the "Nothing you do is or ever will be sufficient" treatment.

Yep. The Libs & Progs want what happened to be comic-book-like good vs.evil. In reality, there were multiple factions of multiple sides, and there was probably plenty of not-good among those sides and factions. Trump is, rightly,pointing this out, and the MSM are trying to control the narrative so that Trump can be condemned for simply acknowledging reality.
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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2017, 06:57:23 PM »
I think the majority of the blame goes to the media, blm, antifa and other liberal intolerant groups. The media and libs / progressives blamed Trump supporters for violence at Trump rallies when in fact it was the left, a lot of them paid agitators who were the disruptive violent ones.

I think the tipping point has been reached where conservatives are sick of the lefts shit and are meeting them head on. If a dozen antifa got run over they got what they deserved for showing up to incite violence. All the demonstrations / riots are called freedom of speech when it is the left, now it is the other sides turn to show their opinion.
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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2017, 09:36:32 PM »
I see Trump is getting the "Nothing you do is or ever will be sufficient" treatment.
They will never be pleased.

Yep. The Libs & Progs want what happened to be comic-book-like good vs.evil. In reality, there were multiple factions of multiple sides, and there was probably plenty of not-good among those sides and factions. Trump is, rightly,pointing this out, and the MSM are trying to control the narrative so that Trump can be condemned for simply acknowledging reality.
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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2017, 07:02:40 AM »
by Kyle Feldscher | Aug 13, 2017, 1:01 PM

White House: Trump 'of course' condemns white supremacists

The White House said President Trump "of course" condemns white supremacists after failing to do so during a short speech following the death of a 32-year-old woman Saturday in Charlottesville, Va.

"The president said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry, and hatred," the White House spokesperson stated. "Of course that includes white supremacists, [Ku Klux Klan], neo-nazi and all extremist groups. He called for national unity and bringing all Americans together."

The spokesperson refused to go on the record with his or her name and would not give reporters in New Jersey a reason why the statement could not be attributed.

Trump was criticized on both sides of the aisle for not mentioning white nationalists, white supremacists or any of the groups mentioned in Sunday's statement during remarks at his New Jersey golf course Saturday.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-trump-of-course-condemns-white-supremacists/article/2631397


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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2017, 08:25:10 AM »
Jeff Sessions expects Trump to denounce specific white nationalist groups

Sessions said he will meet with Trump later today and believes the president will give a more thorough statement.

"The initial statement he gave was just within a few hours of the event occurring and I believe it was very strong and a clear condemnation of racial bigotry and hatred. And white supremacy certainly was included in bigotry and hatred," Sessions said. "So I think the president will be there. He is a strong leader. He is an outspoken leader. He expresses himself in clear and blunt terms."

"It does meet the definition of domestic terrorism in our statute," Sessions said. "We are pursuing it in the [Department of Justice] in every way that we can make a case ... You can be sure we will charge and advance the investigation towards the most serious charges that can be brought because this is unequivocally an unacceptable evil attack."

When asked on CBS if it's wrong to make a "moral equivalence" between the two groups of protesters on Saturday, Sessions said, "Absolutely."

"This individual had no right to drive a car into them," he said. "This is absolute unacceptable."

Sessions added that the president has directed the Justice Department and the FBI "to get after it."

"Justice will be done. We're coming after these people," he said.

Sessions said that Trump's initial reaction to the attack was "strong."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jeff-sessions-expects-trump-to-denounce-specific-white-nationalist-groups/article/2631419

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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2017, 06:46:13 PM »
 08/14/2017

Trump Just Called Out Racism By Name


President Trump unequivocally denounced white nationalism in an unannounced address following the violence at a white nationalist event in Charlottesville over the weekend.

“Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans,” Trump said. “We are equal in the eyes of our Creator. We are equal under the law and under our Constitution.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/14/trump-racism-is-evil-and-white-supremacists-are-repugnant-to-everything-we-hold-dear/

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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2017, 07:00:54 AM »
USA TODAY Published 8:33 p.m. ET Aug. 14, 2017

Under Armour, Intel CEOs quit Trump's job council over Charlottesville rally response

Under Armour CEO Kevin Plank said late Monday he's stepping down from President Trump's manufacturing job council, joining Merck and Intel in distancing his company from the administration following Trump's widely criticized response to white nationalists' rally at Charlottesville.

"We remain resolute in our potential and ability to improve American manufacturing," Plank said in a statement. "However, Under Armour engages in innovation and sports, not politics."

Also late Monday, Brian Krzanich, CEO of Intel, said in a company blog post he also had resigned from the manufacturing council.

"I resigned to call attention to the serious harm our divided political climate is causing to critical issues, including the serious need to address the decline of American manufacturing," Krzanich wrote. "Politics and political agendas have sidelined the important mission of rebuilding America’s manufacturing base."

Earlier Monday Merck CEO Ken Frazier announced his intention to step down from the council "as a matter of personal conscience."   

Frazier's resignation prompted angry responses from Trump on Twitter. In the morning, Trump tweeted that Frazier's response would give him "more time to lower ripoff drug prices."

Trump stepped up his Twitter criticism of the pharmaceutical giant and Frazier later in the afternoon, hours after his delayed denunciation of specific racist hate groups involved in the weekend's tragedy.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/08/14/under-armour-ceo-quit-trumps-job-council-over-charlottesville-rally-response/567319001/


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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2017, 07:07:19 AM »
Gingrich: Anti-Trump crowd won't be satisfied
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/14/gingrich-on-charlottesville-reaction-anti-trump-movement-will-never-ever-be-satisfied.html

Mike Huckabee: 'Utter nonsense' to say Trump is a racist
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5541273564001/

Hannity: Trump couldn't have been clearer on Charlottesville
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5541255304001/

VIDEO; Sheriff Clarke 'proud' of Trump's Charlottesville response
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5541263612001/

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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2017, 07:19:30 AM »
"Racism is Evil" President Trump Condemns Hate Groups, KKK and Neo-Nazis

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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2017, 07:39:13 AM »
The mayor ought to be concerned about his own city's liability and perhaps his own personally.  If I was an ambulance-chaser involved in trying to get money for any of the injured on either side, I'd be looking at him because none of the perps likely have a pot to piss in.  My theory would be that he purposely set this up to ensure the permitted protestors got their asses beat, expecting and specifically framing things so the counterprotestors would violently attack them, but failing to take into account that this would result in a battle instead of them just running away in shame.
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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2017, 09:05:20 AM »
The mayor ought to be concerned about his own city's liability and perhaps his own personally.  If I was an ambulance-chaser involved in trying to get money for any of the injured on either side, I'd be looking at him because none of the perps likely have a pot to piss in.  My theory would be that he purposely set this up to ensure the permitted protestors got their asses beat, expecting and specifically framing things so the counterprotestors would violently attack them, but failing to take into account that this would result in a battle instead of them just running away in shame.

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Re: Trump: 'Many sides' to blame for violent clashes in Va.
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2017, 09:27:18 AM »
It's Trump's Fault.