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SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« on: April 13, 2017, 01:22:06 PM »
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Sanders will run in 2020 if he's still kicking

He's got more energy than any 70 year old I know. He's the most popular senator. The party will take his platform and run with it.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/328214-poll-sanders-most-popular-senator-in-the-us

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/dems-populist-agenda-sanders-trump-237114

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Star Member JTFrog (13,821 posts)
1. He will do it as an Independent then. nt

AND.... here we go!

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Star Member Ken Burch (45,885 posts)
47. We've been over this...in Vermont, nobody is registered as anything but independent.

So Bernie CAN'T "register" as a Democrat.

That said, while I still admire the guy, I don't think he will run again. This was never about ego for him. It was about the ideals he stood for.

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Star Member still_one (51,145 posts)
55. Patrick Leahy is from Vermont and identifies as a Democrat. Bernie is from Vermont and

does not want to be identified as a Democrat

In order to identify as a Democrat you do it through the FEC filing.

As for your second paragraph, there is a lot to admire Bernie for, but he never wanted to be identified as a Democrat. Patrick Leahy does.

Whether he runs or not in 2020, that's up to him.

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Star Member JHan (3,880 posts)
92. Not quite, Bernie is a social democrat : there are some key differences.

Democratic socialist - believes the means of production should always be controlled by the workforce , does not believe in private control of capital.

social democrat : allows for private enterprise and a strong expansive social safety net. Scandinavian countries are model social democracies where there are free markets/trade liberalization but also a vast safety net. In some respects, Scandinavian countries have a freer market than the U.S ( and this is one of few areas where Sanders' views shift from the norm in these countries) otherwise he is a social democrat.

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Star Member JTFrog (13,821 posts)
23. We don't support third party spoilers here.

And I'm pretty sure Bernie won't be welcome to run as a Democrat again. After suggesting that Obama be primaried, that Hillary wasn't qualified to run for president and his constant attacks on the party, I just don't see it happening.

So good luck with that.

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Star Member brush (11,599 posts)
44. He's not even a Democrat...again.

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Star Member obamanut2012 (12,579 posts)
65. Zero evidence he is the most popular politician -- very doubtful

Actually.

Proof?

And yeah, Bernie won't ever be running as a DEm again.

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71. Running in Democratic presidential primaries is NOT "splitting the Democratic vote"

And the result in November would have been the same if Bernie hadn't entered the primaries.

HRC would not have taken any additional votes in the fall if she'd been nominated with no primary opposition, OR if she had run on a platform further to the right in the fall. The issues voters had with her existed long before Bernie decided to enter the race.

More to the point, it wasn't Bernie's fault that HRC's fall campaign was run like every non-Obama fall Democratic campaign since 1980-focusing predominately-as those who ran the campaign have admitted-on attacking the opposition candidate, rather than making a positive case for our own nominee and our own platform.

If the party had made a positive case for the nominee and the platform, it could have withstood the Russian interference and the Comey slur.

The lesson is that we can't win if we don't TRY to win the argument on the issues.

yes... the hill/bernie wars are on again!

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73. If Bernie hadn't entered the primaries

He would have entered as an Independent. Hillary would have been the Democratic nominee. 45 would have been the Republican nominee.

Bernie and Hillary would have split the Democratic vote and 45 would have won *both* the popular vote and electoral college.

So I'm asking...is that *really* what people want to happen in 2020 should Bernie decide to run but not be "allowed" to run as a Democrat?

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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2017, 02:10:41 PM »
Fossil & Fauxcahontas! The winning ticket!
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2017, 04:41:40 PM »
We can only hope.

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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2017, 07:14:24 PM »
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Here's your Bernie ****ing Sanders............:



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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2017, 08:08:00 PM »
My guess is if the socialist runs then he is in need of a vacation home in Florida or something.
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 08:32:11 PM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on April 13, 2017, 08:08:00 PM
My guess is if the socialist runs then he is in need of a vacation home in Florida or something.

Socialism is great.  :lmao:
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2017, 08:46:36 PM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on April 13, 2017, 08:08:00 PM
My guess is if the socialist runs then he is in need of a vacation home in Florida or something.


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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2017, 09:20:08 PM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on April 13, 2017, 08:08:00 PM
My guess is if the socialist runs then he is in need of a vacation home in Florida or something.

He's got the one on Lake Champlain. :whistling:
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2017, 08:19:33 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on April 13, 2017, 09:20:08 PM
He's got the one on Lake Champlain. :whistling:
Meh...he knows only a pleb would stay there out of season.
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2017, 08:25:46 AM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on April 14, 2017, 08:19:33 AM
Meh...he knows only a pleb would stay there out of season.

Exactly! He needs a winter vay-cay home as well as one for summer.
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2017, 08:29:40 AM »
I'm hoping for FRANKEN/STEIN  :-)

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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2017, 01:28:12 AM »
Salon thinks that it should be Maxine Waters in 2020.

I'm not joking.
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2017, 03:33:42 AM »
Quote from: Maverick1987 on April 14, 2017, 08:29:40 AM
I'm hoping for FRANKEN/STEIN 

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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2017, 06:44:35 AM »
Quote from: Adam Wood on April 15, 2017, 01:28:12 AM
Salon thinks that it should be Maxine Waters in 2020.

I'm not joking.

Mad Maxine and Baa-Baa Lee!

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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2017, 07:27:19 AM »
Sanders/Warren? Franken/Stein? Maxine Waters/Sheila Jackson Lee?

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How about Tim Kaine and an inflatable love doll? It would be tough to decide which one should be at the top of the ticket.
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2017, 07:48:44 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on April 15, 2017, 06:44:35 AM
Mad Maxine and Baa-Baa Lee!

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Quote from: Big Dog on April 15, 2017, 07:27:19 AM
Sanders/Warren? Franken/Stein? Maxine Waters/Sheila Jackson Lee?

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How about Tim Kaine and an inflatable love doll? It would be tough to decide which one should be at the top of the ticket.

Actually, "Baa-Baa Lee" is my nickname for Barbara Lee, the hand-picked successor of Ron "Red" Dellums. She "represents" Oakland, CA, and Mad Maxine's district is in LA, CA. :evil:
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2017, 03:51:11 PM »
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Sanders will run in 2020 if he's still kicking

Great news, as long as Trump doesn't think he can cruise to victory on a false sense of security like Crooked Hillary did.  Not saying that Trump would crash and burn as spectacularly as Hillary did, just a friendly word of advice not to get too cocky.
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2017, 10:50:48 PM »
Another bumpersticker that might work for Sanders-Warren would be "FOSSIL - FOOL"
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2017, 08:42:06 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on April 15, 2017, 10:50:48 PM
Another bumpersticker that might work for Sanders-Warren would be "FOSSIL - FOOL"
And the descriptions are interchangeable for each.  Simple and understandable.
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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2017, 10:04:16 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on April 15, 2017, 10:50:48 PM
Another bumpersticker that might work for Sanders-Warren would be "FOSSIL - FOOL"

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Re: SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2017, 09:50:50 PM »
Sanders should run - It would give the dead who invariably vote for Democrats a dead candidate to vote for instead.
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2017, 05:45:30 AM »
Quote from: miskie on April 16, 2017, 09:50:50 PM
Sanders should run - It would give the dead who invariably vote for Democrats a dead candidate to vote for instead.

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