UPDATE ON VOTER FRAUD: proud2Blib rambles on...

[dutch508]

  (the part lib cut out are in bold italics.)

proud2Blib  (1000+ posts)       Sun Aug-10-08 02:10 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3771149

Misunderstanding, scuffle at voting site lead to arrest (galloglas)

A confrontation over voter identification requirements Tuesday at an Independence precinct resulted in the arrest of a man who says he was denied the right to vote, a claim election board officials deny.

Phil Lindsey said when he and his son Eamonn showed up to East Alton Community of Christ Church, 16999 E. 23rd St., Tuesday morning to cast their votes in the primary election they presented election judges with precinct-issued voter cards as proof they were registered voters.

After being told by judges that the cards were not valid forms of identification to cast a vote and that they needed to show photo I.D., Lindsey said he produced a bank statement, which, shown in combination with the precinct card, is valid according to the secretary of state’s office.

“They did not have the legal right to ask for a driver’s license,” Lindsey said. “I said, ‘you have got to be kidding me.’ You have to know the law.”

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Election judges, unsure if the bank statement was valid, immediately placed a phone call to the Jackson County Election Board to get clarification. What happened after that is open to interpretation. Lindsey said he and his son were trying to explain to an election judge why they should be allowed to vote. Election Board Co-director Charlene Davis said Lindsey became loud and unruly.

“Mr. Lindsey was screaming at the election judges like a maniac out of control,” Davis said. “The judges were scared to death. It’s my understanding that he was so out of control that the police arrested him for peace disturbance.”

Police Spokesperson Tom Gentry said Lindsey was arrested for, as the summons to appear in court states: “knowingly (causing) a disturbance/disorderly conduct to wit: acts in a violent or tumultuous manner toward another, placing such person(s) in fear of safety by refusing to show proper I. D. when voting.”

Gentry would not comment further on the incident.

Lindsey said he was not disrupting the peace or behaving in a disorderly way but simply exercising his right to vote in accordance of state law.

“The way it (the summons) was written, they feared for their safety because I wouldn’t produce my driver’s license,” said Lindsey, a self-described politically active Democrat. “I’m not sure what it was they were reacting to.”

Davis said the board offered five times to allow Lindsey and his son an opportunity to vote after he posted a $300 bond on the disorderly conduct charged. Lindsey refused to vote at the election board office, steadfast on voting at his assigned precinct.

“I asked questions and, in the end, I decided I would vote only in my precinct,” Lindsey said. Lindsey and his son both left the office without voting.

“It’s an unfortunate situation,” Davis said, “but the thing is, this is not his first time doing this. He was not being disenfranchised or denied a right to vote. He simply would not listen to logic.”

For his part, Lindsey said he wanted to vote at his designated precinct.

“I did not see any way she could have handed me a ballot to fill out and it would have counted,” Lindsey said. “I didn’t want to possibly set a precedent for this.”

Davis said in her 34 years with the Election Board she has never encountered such an incident as this one.

“I think it is a shame when people come in and try to intimidate election judges,” she said. “If he had shown the bank statement (in the beginning) he would have been fine.”

http://www.examiner.net/news/x802816840/Misunderstandin...

 
The newspaper has already been DU-ed with comments.

Wilms  (1000+ posts)      Sun Aug-10-08 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #11
30. Perhaps because it's the law in MO?
 Unless I got this wrong, the precinct ID needs to have a signature on it. I thought I read on another thread that galloglas' ID wasn't signed, so I checked the law,

http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills01/bilt...

 

Oh, yes. The law. Oh well.


aestheticized by franksolich

[franksolich]

Don't be upset dutch; I didn't change any content, but just re-formatted.

I think it's pretty important for readers to see how primitives oftentimes leave things out.

[dutch508]

Don't be upset dutch; I didn't change any content, but just re-formatted.

I think it's pretty important for readers to see how primitives oftentimes leave things out.

no sweat, Frank.

[Carl]

It is the third or fourth thread that the two of them have posted about the thing.
They seem pretty desperate to get attention.

There is a surprise.

[franksolich]

It is the third or fourth thread that the two of them have posted about the thing.
They seem pretty desperate to get attention.

There is a surprise.

You know, I am really concerned about something.

This pal of the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher obviously meant to cause trouble, nothing less.

Now, come election day, and it's apparent by then that Barry "Goldwater" Obama's going to lose.

We all know what sore losers Obamaites and Obamaite primitives are.

I suspect there's going to be some malcontents and disruptors trying to obstruct decent civilized people from getting to the polls to vote.

[Carl]

It is the third or fourth thread that the two of them have posted about the thing.
They seem pretty desperate to get attention.

There is a surprise.

You know, I am really concerned about something.

This pal of the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher obviously meant to cause trouble, nothing less.

Now, come election day, and it's apparent by then that Barry "Goldwater" Obama's going to lose.

We all know what sore losers Obamaites and Obamaite primitives are.

I suspect there's going to be some malcontents and disruptors trying to obstruct decent civilized people from getting to the polls to vote.

There is no doubt that this person was doing all they could to provoke a confrontation and the multiple postings at the DUmp and other leftists sites would suggest they want a big issue of it.

It would seem that there is some question as to whether the story about having the required by law documentation is true too.

Old saying about being in a debate...when the facts are on your side then pound the facts.
When the facts are not on your side then pound the table.

[NHSparky]

I wonder how many "registrations" he got for the ACORN voter drive?

[mamacags]

[delilahmused]

Proud2Blib and teachers like her (who comprise a good 95% of public school teachers) illustrates exactly why I chose to homeschool. The idea that someone dumber than my 6 year old would most likely be teaching his older brother pretty much scared the crap out of me.

Cindie