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Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« on: January 29, 2017, 08:14:37 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028562156

Oh my.

This is hilarious.

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MineralMan (90,158 posts)     Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:31 PM

Many Republicans in Cogress would much prefer Pence as
 
President. That is true in both houses. Since he would become President if Trump were impeached and removed, that gives them an out.

They all know this. So, I would not be surprised if that possibility is being discussed privately behind closed doors. If Trump' s behavior causes the threat of a voter revolt, the Repeblicans will impeach and remove him, I think.

That's my assessment of the situation. Thanks for reading this.

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GP6971 (8,994 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:35 PM

1. I think that's a very real scenario
 
and I would guess the democratic senators and reps are probably contributing to the discussion. We can fight Pence better than the unpredictable Trump. It won't be easy, but we won't be dealing with the uncontrollable crazy.

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starshine00 (100 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:35 PM

2. I think so too
 
it is hard to say as lgbt but he at least would not be in bed with Russia. And he would do what they wanted. I think Trump is a disaster for the whole world. I don't think Pence would be a disaster across the board but certainly women, gays & minorities would be in deep,, but the world wouldn't be on the verge of exploding.

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WhiteTara (19,547 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:37 PM

3. He's just as evil as Trump, but
 
is a lot oilier. 

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MineralMan (90,158 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:40 PM

5. Yes, but he's not insane and is not
 
in Putin's pocket. We're going to have to wait for another election to change the leadership. Trump needs to go, and soon, or that may be too late. Pence is bad, but he is not Trump.

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Freddie (3,236 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:42 PM

9. Pence is a horrible hateful person
 
But far less likely to start WWIII, so there's that. 

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MineralMan (90,158 posts)    Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:44 PM 

12. He is, yes. But we can't elect a new president
 
Until 2020. Trump might do something way crazy before then.

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Zing Zing Zingbah (4,358 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:54 PM

16. I agree... so that makes him a lesser evil, which is still an improvement

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WhiteTara (19,547 posts)     Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:42 PM

10. I agree. But he is evil and slimy
 
and he hates a large segment of the country as much as the OrangeAnus.

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MineralMan (90,158 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:48 PM

14. He is both, yes.
 
However, we will not have a chance to elect a Democrat until 2020. Trump needs to be gone long before then. That's imperative, I think. Pence, at least, is unlikely to start a major war or do something truly destructive.

I don't like the Pence option one bit, but I don't see another option at this time.

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uppityperson (108,074 posts)    Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:45 PM 

13. He's very scary, but more predictable. He'll need fighting also

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uponit7771 (39,375 posts)     Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:48 PM

15. +1, especially by now he hasn't quit... wasn't there a general who did quit a couple weeks ago?

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C_U_L8R (19,774 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:39 PM

4. Today, Trump
 
We'll deal with Pence tomorrow

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MineralMan (90,158 posts)     Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:40 PM

7. Yup. Step one is dumping Trump.

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LonePirate (5,700 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:40 PM

6. They fear reprisal from the Racist-in-Chief's insane supporters who comprise 90% of the Repub party.
 
If they thought they would not suffer any electoral consequences from impeaching and removing him, they would likely do it. The Repubs in Congress most definitely would rather work with Pence.

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MineralMan (90,158 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:42 PM

8. I thing you're overestimating
 
The number of Republicans who love Trump by a large factor, frankly.

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JI7 (59,001 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:42 PM

11. if trump became unpopular with their base they would. but until then they are cowards
 
afraid if losing the bigot vote if they go against trump. 

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First Speaker (1,397 posts)      Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:56 PM

17. I'm tempted to say, "go **** off...you created this monster, you deal with him..."
 
...and try to get the Dems to refuse any cooperation with impeachment. Let them go down with the ship. But of course, Trump has his finger on the Button. So maybe we should cooperate... **** it. We're all royally ****ed no matter *what* happens. If nothing happens--well, God protect us all, because human beings sure as hell aren't up to the job. Impeach? God knows what happens *then*.

Trump's die-hard supporters make up at least 30,000,000 people, and I suspect the GOP "establishment" is physically afraid for their lives if they move against Trump. (In fact, I more than suspect. A relative of mine is a player in DC Dem circles, and knows the leading people, Dem and GOP--and he tells me this is true, the McConnells and Ryans are quite literally afraid for their skins if they cross Trump.)

We might see spontaneous beer-hall type uprisings all over Red America. And even if they succeed--Pence would be just as bad in many ways, and might cement GOP/far right control over the country for a generation. If Trump stays, and *doesn't* start a nuclear war--a big if--might it not be preferable if the GOP goes down with the ship, instead of presenting Pence as a "healing" figure? I honestly don't know the answer to that. But we are in a hole, and I see no good ways out...

I suppose I could speak on behalf of all conservatives and Republicans by saying that the primitives would have better luck reading franksolich's ass instead of our minds.
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2017, 08:40:33 PM »
what slays me is that these DUmbasses really believe you can just impeach a sitting President if you don't like him or his policy.
The really believe this...  what ever happened to real civics in school?
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2017, 08:52:29 PM »
Looks like they are back to begging the Blue Fairy:


Please Blue Fairy impeach President Trump!
Please Blue Fairy impeach President Trump!
Please Blue Fairy impeach President Trump!
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2017, 09:14:46 PM »
Pencemas?
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2017, 09:19:10 PM »
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22. I have to log off for tonight.

I'll be back in the morning and respond to posts in this thread first thing. Please continue the discussion.

He likes to get to bed early--his vivid visions must come to him while he's sleeping.
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2017, 09:20:36 PM »
Quote from: Delmar on January 29, 2017, 09:19:10 PM
He likes to get to bed early--his vivid visions must come to him while he's sleeping.

Well, he's pretty old; he needs his rest.

But as old as he is, one thinks he'd know better than to presume he can read our minds.
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2017, 09:28:46 PM »
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MineralMan (90,158 posts)     Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:31 PM

Many Republicans in Cogress would much prefer Pence as
 
President. That is true in both houses. Since he would become President if Trump were impeached and removed, that gives them an out.

They all know this. So, I would not be surprised if that possibility is being discussed privately behind closed doors. If Trump' s behavior causes the threat of a voter revolt, the Repeblicans will impeach and remove him, I think.

That's my assessment of the situation. Thanks for reading this.

I thought you hated Mike Pence more than Donald Trump.
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2017, 09:37:36 PM »
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2017, 10:03:24 PM »
I'm losing track of the whacko conspiracies. Exactly who is Trump going to start a nuclear war with? Because I'm looking a the small list of countries who have nukes and could retaliate, and I'm not seeing anyone on the list who we are looking to fight.

I sure hope they aren't claiming Russia since you can't claim "Putin's best friend" and "nuclear confrontation" and not expose yourself as a hypocrite.

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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2017, 04:22:00 AM »
They never learn.
Leading up to the election all they did was listen to each other and a clearly antagonistic MSM.

And they still are doing the exact same thing.
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2017, 05:21:11 AM »
Ever notice that Rockhead uses the phrase "I think" as much as Kentuck uses question marks???
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2017, 05:32:32 AM »
Quote from: Karin on January 30, 2017, 05:21:11 AM
Ever notice that Rockhead uses the phrase "I think" as much as Kentuck uses question marks???

Undoubtedly it's a trick he learned a long time ago, from reading Benjamin Franklin's Autobiography.

Nothing wrong that, and the Autobiography's full of all sorts of good advice and counsel, but it needs pointed out.
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2017, 07:34:02 AM »
Quote from: USA4ME on January 29, 2017, 10:03:24 PM
I'm losing track of the whacko conspiracies. Exactly who is Trump going to start a nuclear war with? Because I'm looking a the small list of countries who have nukes and could retaliate, and I'm not seeing anyone on the list who we are looking to fight.
I sure hope they aren't claiming Russia since you can't claim "Putin's best friend" and "nuclear confrontation" and not expose yourself as a hypocrite.
Actually, you can.  Substitute "sky-is-green alternate reality incoherent" for "hypocrite".
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Re: Minnesota Moses, other primitives, allege to know how we think
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2017, 09:05:17 AM »
STOP TRUMP Fantasy # 532.

The way things are going, in about 4 years the one realistic STOP TRUMP means may be the 22nd Amendment.
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