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SHRED (15,194 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 04:52 PMAn election redo In light of the latest revelations the only correct thing to do is an election redo. It's not going to happen but needs to.
putitinD (922 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 04:54 PM2. Trump should be disqualified. Hillary won the election
unblock (29,798 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 05:01 PM 3. there's no process for that. best case scenario is that congress impeaches and removes trump & pence (both elections are equally tainted). then either ryan becomes president, or they appoint a new vice president in between the two removals and that person becomes president. the republican congress would never do any of that, but even if they did, they'd never, ever, ever make hillary president.
SoCalMusicLover (1,464 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 05:06 PM4. It's A JOKE!! If this were sports, the runner up would be declared the champion. Of course, this is America, and fairness is not an option.
unblock (29,798 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 05:19 PM7. hell, if it we're one of toxic trump's pageants, or the apprentice, the runner-up would win. then again, i guess that is in fact how it turned out, because after all, toxic trump *was* the runner-up....
msongs (42,651 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 05:11 PM5. constitution has NO remedy for a botched or stolen election ( impeachment allows only for specific behavior by one specific person)
Blaukraut (4,044 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 05:17 PM6. Then the constitution needs to be amended to fix that Such an amendment would be almost guaranteed to have the backing it needs.
world wide wally (7,336 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 07:15 PM11. I was under the impression that the Constitution guaranteed us "free and fair" elections
dumbcat (1,216 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 07:25 PM13. Where, exactly, did you think it did that? I'd be interested in your impression.
unblock (29,798 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 05:26 PM 9. not entirely true. the electoral college can in theory vote for just about anyone qualified; the house can challenge and throw out selected electoral votes, and eventually vote themselves to determine the president under certain conditions. prior to that, state and federal laws and courts may provide remedies such as recounts and challenges and so on. but there are aggressive deadlines for all that stuff, and in short, it's too late now.
Greybnk48 (6,215 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 05:24 PM8. Isn't it treason if we show Trump was involved? Why do we have to just live with this fraudulent outcome?
longship (35,453 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 06:56 PM10. There is no constitutional provision for any such thing. Of course, people should know that already. There are no election do-overs.
ananda (16,614 posts) Fri Jan 6, 2017, 07:24 PM12. A million person protest shutting down.. .. all the roads to capitol hill might make a difference.
Who is this person or entity with so much power? The Magic Negro? Congress? Diana Ginsburg & The Supremes? Joe Biden?
Star Member shadowrider (4,935 posts) 17. SighAnd we laughed at dRump when he said he wouldn't automatically accept election results. Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/california California results: Hillary Clinton 8,753,788 Donald J. Trump 4,483,810 Difference: 4,269,978 http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york New York results: Hillary Clinton 4,547,218 Donald J. Trump 2,814,346 Difference: 1,732,872 Total difference: 6,002,850 If she won the popular vote by 3 million, that means Trump won the other 49 separate elections by 3,002,850. The voice the other 49 elections have is the electoral college. I don't like it, you don't like it, none of us like it, but it's the system we have. Civics 101: There is NO national election. There are 51 separate elections where the popular vote counts. (50 states plus D.C.). The popular vote in each individual state is what counts. It's theoretically possible Hillary could have won every vote in California and New York (20,599,162) and won by popular vote, yet STILL lost by the same electoral margin.
Ted Kennedy is the only person with an actual confirmed kill in the war on women.