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Offline dutch508

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according to my calculations:
« on: December 12, 2016, 07:39:23 PM »
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Key factors that led to Trump winning, according to my calculations:

30% -- the media's coverage of the campaign, and idiotic focus on Hillary's emails and neglect of issues of substance (e.g. climate change, jobs plans, healthcare). This part includes Comey's late breaking announcement on her emails (October surprise).

20% -- related to hacking by Russia and create chaos and confusion about the Democrats

20% -- the historical situation of conservatives pissed off after 8 years of Obama and not wanting 4 more years of a "liberal" president (threats of gun control, keeping abortion legal, gay marriage, etc)

20% -- Trump's ability to game media coverage, lie effortlessly and demagogue like a champion

10% -- voter suppression efforts by the GOP

10%-- missteps by Hillary's campaign and her flaws as a candidate

The MAIN POINT is that in a close election, as this last one was, any of these could tip it one way or the other. Russian hacking definitely played a role.


just like a democrat to get 110% out of a hundred

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2. i put more into russia hacking/fbi.

a hundred and fifty %!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2016, 07:56:30 PM »
According to my calculations, you're wrong.
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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2016, 07:57:57 PM »
California;
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  Hillary Clinton   
Democrat  8,739,638   61.8% 
 
Donald J. Trump   
Republican 4,477,478   31.7%
 

New York;
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  Hillary Clinton   
Democrat  4,211,765   58.3% 
 
Donald J. Trump   
Republican  2,678,939   37.1%
 

I sure would like to know how many illegals voted.  :shrug:   :confused:
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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2016, 10:08:16 PM »
This is the real breakdown:

50% - 8 years of obozo screwing up the country royally

25% - hiLIARy is unlikable and a documented liar about important things

25% - Trump telling it like it is and telling the MSM where to stuff it
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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2016, 04:59:10 AM »
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20% -- related to hacking by Russia and create chaos and confusion about the Democrats

If you are actually talking about wikileaks it far from created confusion about who and what dumbcrats are.
It brought perfect clarity to many.
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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2016, 07:47:24 AM »
DU-folk doing CALCULATIONS?


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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2016, 07:49:47 AM »
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Key factors that led to Trump winning, according to my calculations:

30% -- the media's coverage of the campaign, and idiotic focus on Hillary's emails and neglect of issues of substance (e.g. climate change, jobs plans, healthcare). This part includes Comey's late breaking announcement on her emails (October surprise).

20% -- related to hacking by Russia and create chaos and confusion about the Democrats

20% -- the historical situation of conservatives pissed off after 8 years of Obama and not wanting 4 more years of a "liberal" president (threats of gun control, keeping abortion legal, gay marriage, etc)

20% -- Trump's ability to game media coverage, lie effortlessly and demagogue like a champion

10% -- voter suppression efforts by the GOP

10%-- missteps by Hillary's campaign and her flaws as a candidate

The MAIN POINT is that in a close election, as this last one was, any of these could tip it one way or the other. Russian hacking definitely played a role.

well now, that's pretty sciency of you
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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2016, 10:36:49 AM »
Quote from: FunkyZero on December 13, 2016, 07:49:47 AM
well now, that's pretty sciency of you
Ya know, if the DUmmy would just add a little bit of chicken wire, a cinder block, and lighter fluid, it would have me convinced!!!
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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2016, 01:27:34 PM »
Trump won more states and thus won more electoral college votes and thus won the Presidency. I don't think there is any other way to look at this.
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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2016, 02:34:35 PM »
Where is the old DUmath rubric,  1+1= potato??  That is DUmmy math used in calculations!! :cheersmate:

On the other hand, how about that Michigan vote fraud uncovered in the Motor City?   Whoops, lets not go there they say.  Maybe the 'coefficient of fraud' developed there should be applied to other Clinton strong holds to re-level the playing field?   "My popular vote total, it's melting"    :rotf:
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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2016, 02:37:52 PM »
My rule of thumb is 90% of any statistic is half false.
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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2016, 03:35:00 PM »
I'm doing some calculation too..just a sec...almost done....um carry the one...add in the denominator... ah yes this adds up to you should eat a Bag of Dicks.
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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2016, 04:53:01 PM »
Quote from: FlaGator on December 13, 2016, 01:27:34 PM
Trump won more states and thus won more electoral college votes and thus won the Presidency. I don't think there is any other way to look at this.

And that, my friend, is the correct calculation.
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Re: according to my calculations:
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2016, 05:10:19 PM »
Quote from: RWKindaGuy on December 13, 2016, 04:53:01 PM
And that, my friend, is the correct calculation.

The funny part is HELLary was spotted almost 200 EV's before the first ballot was cast, AND STILL LOST!   :lol:
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