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Offline Carl

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DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« on: November 29, 2016, 08:37:42 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028314337

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Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:00 AM

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Is there a flaw in our Constitution?
Our Founders would not have known what impact technology and social media might have in the future of our country?

Two times, out of the last 5 elections, the popular vote winner for President has lost the Presidency due to the electoral college vote. It has become too common.

Not only is the "electoral college" a possible flaw in our Constitution, but the idea that there are "checks and balances" to somehow protect our citizenry is also a flaw?

It needs to be fixed, in my opinion.

   

Social media of 2016 was in their eyes in the 1780s??????????????????????????

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No retard,what they saw was the possible tyranny you mongrels would try to gain the power of so they stopped it in its tracks.

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2. I'm interested in the idea that Checks and Balances are a flaw - what do you mean by that?

I have generally thought that they were a good thing.

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7. They were meant to work in the original documents...

but, political Parties have become so ingrained in our system of government that Party politics, by a simple majority, can over-ride all checks and balances for benefit of Party. For example, we have a Republican majority by numbers, but in reality, they will ignore the Constitution and give their elected leader dictatorial powers. Conflicts of interest, which is clearly forbidden in our Constitution, are well on their way to being ignored, as the would-be dictator does business with friends and enemies alike.



Imagine that.
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Re: DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2016, 08:57:23 AM »
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Is there a flaw in our Constitution?
Our Founders would not have known what impact technology and social media might have in the future of our country?

Two times, out of the last 5 elections, the popular vote winner for President has lost the Presidency due to the electoral college vote. It has become too common.

Not only is the "electoral college" a possible flaw in our Constitution ...

 :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:

Ask Vanna to buy a clue! The FFs were very aware of the power of demagogues (think Athens and the Peloposnesian War!), of voter fraud, and of the potential for greedy arrogant cities exploiting the rural folk who feed, clothe, and house them (= lumber). What you imagine to be a "flaw" was a carefully worked out hurdle to weaken those evils.

 :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:
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Re: DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2016, 09:01:49 AM »
kt would know all that if he'd paid attention to something other than girls' @$$es in his 8th Grade American History classes!
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Re: DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2016, 09:08:51 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on November 29, 2016, 09:01:49 AM
kt would know all that if he'd paid attention to something other than girls' @$$es in his 8th Grade American History classes!

He's a DUmmy and a liberal.  What makes you think he was paying attention to girls asses?  I'd wager you have the sex (and possibly species)  wrong.
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Re: DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2016, 09:19:38 AM »
What happened to their confidence in their impenetrable blue wall?  Dramatic change just since June:
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Hillary Clinton’s path to victory


It’s a sign of how strongly tilted the Electoral College map is in Clinton’s favor, as she begins a general election campaign building upon the demographic and geographic coalition that President Barack Obama rode to two electoral landslides. Donald Trump, in contrast, must dramatically reimagine and redraw the political landscape to capture the presidency.

Rather than expand the 2012 map in any significant way, the Clinton campaign and its allies want to replicate it. They are obsessed with choking off Trump’s narrower path, hoping to strike a decisive victory in Florida (multiple Clinton officials declared there is nearly no path for Trump without it) while aggressively defending the Democratic-leaning states in the industrial Midwest that Trump has talked most about flipping — most importantly, Pennsylvania. Campaign officials say they think Clinton can turn out more female voters than Obama did. But they see one surrogate in particular as key to recreating the Obama coalition: Obama himself.

Clinton has a multitude of paths, as her allies and advisers see it. Trump has a single route: ginning up disaffected, non-college educated, working-class white voters — many whom may never have voted before — to sweep across the Rust Belt, in places like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ohio.

“I don’t think he has anything outside a Rust Belt theory,” said a Democratic strategist with close ties to the Clinton campaign. Clinton allies also note that Trump is an “organization-lite” candidate who is driven by message, but, they argue, that is a risky strategy for getting out people who typically don’t vote.

Clinton’s top campaign officials note there are 19 states that have voted Democratic in each of the past six presidential elections that account for a total of 242 electoral-college votes. Add New Mexico, whose population is 40 percent Latino and which has gone Democratic in five of the past six contests, and that is 247 of the 270 votes needed to get to the White House.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-clinton-path-victory-224228
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512206402

All the democrats have got to do is win back all of the "disaffected non-college educated working-class white voters" and their impenetrable blue wall is back in business. 

Good luck winning them back if all you see them as is just disaffected non-college educated working-class white voters.

Keith Ellison for DNC chair!
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Re: DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2016, 11:02:35 AM »
Quote from: BadCat on November 29, 2016, 09:08:51 AM
He's a DUmmy and a liberal.  What makes you think he was paying attention to girls asses?  I'd wager you have the sex (and possibly species)  wrong.

I was being nice.
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Re: DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2016, 11:07:54 AM »
By DUmp logic (or lack thereof), the only states that matter should be California, New York, Massachusetts, Illinois and a few others nicely cherry picked.  Because Hillary won so convincingly there, she should ascend to be coronated.

Completely insane.
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Re: DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2016, 11:34:32 AM »
hmmmm...  we have:


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7. They were meant to work in the original documents...

but, political Parties have become so ingrained in our system of government that Party politics, by a simple majority, can over-ride all checks and balances for benefit of Party. For example, we have a Republican majority by numbers, but in reality, they will ignore the Constitution and give their elected leader dictatorial powers. Conflicts of interest, which is clearly forbidden in our Constitution, are well on their way to being ignored, as the would-be dictator does business with friends and enemies alike.

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What happens if the President doesn't sign an executive order on immigration by the end of the year?
We know he was getting a lot of criticism from the Latino community before the election because they did not like him postponing it simply because some Democrats running for re-election did not want to run with that issue hanging over their heads. So the President, because he feels obligated to do so, has decided that he needs to sign an Executive Order before the end of the year.

So what happens if the President decides to give the Republicans time to pass immigration reform on their own without his EO? They are saying it will "poison the well" if he acts on his own. It's almost like they want him to sign an Executive Order so they don't have to bother with it?

But if the President does not do something by the end of the year, will this hurt the President and the Democrats with the Hispanic vote? If the President explains to Latinos that he is giving the Republicans the chance to pass comprehensive reform on their own. And if they don't, he will sign an executive order giving amnesty to the 11 million undocumented in this country? Would the Latino community accept that? Would the Republicans feel any pressure to act? Wouldn't this put them on the defensive to do something about immigration.

I think the President needs to play hardball with this issue. He should offer the Republican a window of opportunity to do something about it on their own. If they don't he can sign an executive order anytime he wants. On the bright side, this would create havoc with the Republican caucus.   

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025793115


Gee, how time changes hearts and minds.
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Re: DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2016, 11:37:03 AM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on November 29, 2016, 11:07:54 AM
By DUmp logic (or lack thereof), the only states that matter should be California, New York, Massachusetts, Illinois and a few others nicely cherry picked.  Because Hillary won so convincingly there, she should ascend to be coronated.

Completely insane.

If one thinks about it, CA is a microcosm of what the FFs tried to make difficult through the EC. CA has the second largest city in the US, plus 3 more whose populations are about 1M apiece. Meanwhile, CA also has (or had) huge agriculture, forestry, and mining industries. Large-city voters who have little or no understanding of those industries - and don't give a @#$% - routinely and casually vote for regs - directly and through domination of the legislature - that have or are killing those industries.
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Re: DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2016, 12:33:08 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on November 29, 2016, 11:37:03 AM
If one thinks about it, CA is a microcosm of what the FFs tried to make difficult through the EC. CA has the second largest city in the US, plus 3 more whose populations are about 1M apiece. Meanwhile, CA also has (or had) huge agriculture, forestry, and mining industries. Large-city voters who have little or no understanding of those industries - and don't give a @#$% - routinely and casually vote for regs - directly and through domination of the legislature - that have or are killing those industries.
Very good points.

To further my point, imagine the scenario was the exact opposite.  Hard to envision, but just go with it.

CA, NY, IL, MA were all Republican strongholds and the Democrat party held all of "fly over land".  Would the R's & conservatives be claiming this same crap?  I would suspect not, that Dems would say that they are in charge in far more places than just these few states.
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Re: DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2016, 02:00:55 PM »
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Is there a flaw in our Constitution?
Our Founders would not have known what impact technology and social media might have in the future of our country?

Two times, out of the last 5 elections, the popular vote winner for President has lost the Presidency due to the electoral college vote. It has become too common.


How many times out of the last 5, has the electoral vote winner lost? How about the last 10? 20?

As is typical with (D)Ummies, you lead everyone to the wrong answers by asking the wrong questions.

We do not live in a democracy, and nobody with any sense would want to.



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Re: DUmbfuk kentuck still stupid.
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2016, 02:13:37 PM »
Quote from: FunkyZero on November 29, 2016, 11:34:32 AM
hmmmm...  we have:


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Gee, how time changes hearts and minds.

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Old and Busted:  Executive Orders.

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