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« on: November 15, 2016, 07:23:54 PM »
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Response to my family -- originally posted as anonymous

Response to my friends and family about this most devastating presidential election in my lifetime.

I don’t think you understand me right now. I think you think this is about politics. I think you believe this is all just sour grapes; the crocodile tears of the losing locker room with the scoreboard going against us at the buzzer. I can only tell you that you’re wrong. This is not about losing an election. This isn’t about not winning a contest.

This is about two very different ways of seeing the world.

Hillary supporters believe in a diverse America; one where religion or skin color or sexual orientation or place of birth aren’t liabilities or deficiencies or moral defects. Her campaign was one of inclusion and connection and interdependency. It was about building bridges and breaking ceilings. It was about going high.

Trump supporters believe in a very selective America; one that is largely white and straight and Christian, and the voting verified this. Donald Trump has never made any assertions otherwise. He ran a campaign of fear and exclusion and isolation—and that’s the vision of the world those who voted for him have endorsed.They have aligned with the wall-builder and the professed p*ssy-grabber, and they have co-signed his body of work, regardless of the reasons they give for their vote: Every horrible thing Donald Trump ever said about women or Muslims or people of color has now been validated. Every profanity-laced press conference and every call to bully protestors and every ignorant diatribe has been endorsed. Every piece of anti-LGBTQ legislation Mike Pence has championed has been signed-off on. Half of our country has declared these things acceptable, noble, American.

This is the disconnect and the source of my grief today. It isn’t a political defeat that I am lamenting, it’s a defeat for Humanity. I am angry that our candidate lost because our candidate’s losing means this country will be less safe, less kind, and less available to a huge segment of its population, and that’s just the truth. Those who have always felt vulnerable are now left more so. Those whose voices have been silenced will be further quieted. Those who always felt marginalized will be pushed further to the periphery. Those who feared they were seen as inferior now have confirmation in actual percentages.

Those things have essentially been campaign promises of Donald Trump, and so many of our fellow citizens have said this is what they want too. This has never been about politics. This is not about one candidate over the other. It’s not about one’s ideas over another’s. It is not blue vs. red. It’s not her emails vs. his bad language. It’s not her dishonesty vs. his indecency. It’s about overt racism and hostility toward minorities. It’s about religion being weaponized. It’s about crassness and vulgarity and disregard for women. It’s about a barricaded, militarized, bully nation. It’s about an unapologetic, open-faced ugliness.

And it is not only that these things have been ratified by our nation that grieve me, all this hatred, fear, racism, bigotry, and intolerance—it’s knowing that these things have been amen-ed by our neighbors, our families, our friends, those we work with and worship alongside. That is the most horrific thing of all. We now know how close this is. It feels like living in enemy territory being here now, and there’s no way around that. I wake up today in a country I no longer recognize. I am grieving the loss of a place we used to love. This may be America today but it is not the America I believe in or recognize or want.

This is not about a difference of political opinion, as that’s far too small to mourn over. It’s about a fundamental difference in how we view the worth of all people—not just those who look or talk or think or vote the way we do. Grief always laments what might have been, the future we were robbed of, the tomorrow that we won’t get to see, and that is what we walk through today. As a nation we had an opportunity to affirm the beauty of our diversity this day, to choose ideas over soundbites, to let everyone know they had a place at the table, to be the beacon of goodness and decency we imagine that we are—and we said no.

The Scriptures say that weeping endures for a night but joy comes in the morning. We can’t see that dawn coming any time soon. And this is why Susan and I grieve for our fellow citizens.

Please stay safe and keep up the good fight.

You know, because I was having considerable problems with conservativecave this morning--it was balky again, and for the longest time--I gave up and spent a large part of the day downloading the five-hour-long 1989 movie, the greatest movie ever, La Revolution francaise.  It's wholly in French, and the DVD of it doesn't work on computers in North America.  I dunno why, but that's the way it is, and so I had to download it.

It's so appropriate, with the new revolution underway, upsetting the Man, the Establishment, the Old Order, that has dominated America and American society for the past forty years.

The primitives can't see it, but yeah, they were the Man, living off the rest of us.  We already went through the Age of Aquarius, and with the recent elections, we're about to embark on some sort of newer, better, era.

That's after all what the French Revolution was all about; the uprising of the productive people against the parasites of society, the non-productive elements, the class that lived off the working-and-taxpaying class.

The only thing that bothers me is this most recent revolution doesn't seem convulsive, tumultuous, violent enough to be a real revolution.   It would've helped if one saw at least a few tumbrils rolling through the streets, loaded with doomed primitives.
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2016, 07:32:22 PM »

The primitives can't see it, but yeah, they were the Man, living off the rest of us.  We already went through the Age of Aquarius, and with the recent elections, we're about to embark on some sort of newer, better, era.


It sure feels like the 20th century breathed its last breath last Tuesday night, doesn't it?

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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2016, 07:34:02 PM »
What a pompous gas bag and drama queen.

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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2016, 07:35:00 PM »
It sure feels like the 20th century breathed its last breath last Tuesday night, doesn't it?

Whoa.

I never thought of it that way, but you got it.
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Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2016, 07:42:27 PM »
Okay, the site's being a pain in the ass again, so I give up.

I'm leaving in the morning anyway, for the heart of the Sandhills of Nebraska, and won't be back until sometime late on Friday.

Yeah, sure, they have internet out there too, but when on the road, I don't bother.

And then after I come back, I'll be around as long as Tuesday morning, so as to set up the NOMINATING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD FOR THE TOP DUmmies of 2016.

After which I'll take off again for another four days. 
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Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2016, 07:45:33 PM »
Okay, the site's being a pain in the ass again, so I give up.


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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2016, 08:03:40 PM »
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The primitives can't see it, but yeah, they were the Man, living off the rest of us.  We already went through the Age of Aquarius, and with the recent elections, we're about to embark on some sort of newer, better, era.

The DUmmies don't get it now but when/if there is a revolution in this country the soldiers will not be the them. It will be the tax payers. All different kinds of people (diverse) the common thread is they are law abiding fed-up taxpayers. And the DUmmies will be on the losing side of the revolt.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2016, 08:08:40 PM »
The theme of that mournful DUmmie Thread is: GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD!!!

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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2016, 05:14:26 AM »
So, it’s very early in the morning and I’m just now loading up the motor vehicle in preparation for taking off for the heart of the Sandhills, but I had a dream during the night, I surely hope one that’s prophetic, and decided to describe it before leaving.

The Revolution of November 8, 2016 upset the Old Order, ousted the Man, shattered the Establishment, that had dominated American society and politics the past forty years, itself having overturned the Old White Man WASP establishment that preceded it. 

The exact date of the beginning of the Age of Aquarius, when the Democrats, liberals, hippies, and primitives took over is debatable, but I prefer the mid-term elections of 1974, shortly after Watergate; everything on the hippie agenda of the 1960s was legal, or at least socially respectable, by 1980.

And of course it’s now all over for the primitives; no more living off the sweat and toil of other people.

There were trials of the parasites, those who’d taken more from society than what they’d contributed to society (i.e., greedily grabbed more than their fair share), and franksolich attended many of them as a spectator, although being deaf I had no idea what was being said.

Certain primitives, such as the big guy from Bellevue and the squalid lazy freeloading Odin2005 primitive, had been shut up in a corral where they were being fed a 500-calories-a-day diet until they’d slimmed down enough to fit into the guillotine.

Skippy, who’d spent more than thirty years being paid far more than his labor had been worth, had just been condemned and was being led away as the trial began for cousin nadin, who’d grown up and lived in affluent circumstances without having to work for any of It.

Poo-Bah, the Lord High Everything Else from Gilbert & Sullivan’s The Mikado, in a rapid-fire stacatto tone was demanding her head, “chop-it-off-chop-it-off-chop-it off,” while the cousin’s defense counsel urged that she merely be turned out onto the streets to fend for herself, arguing that having to live short fat ugly and offensive was a punishment worse than death anyway.

I’d hoped to keep dreaming, but alas I had to wake up…..
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2016, 05:42:22 AM »
What a beautiful world it would be!

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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2016, 07:14:10 AM »
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2016, 07:14:32 AM »
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Hillary supporters believe in a diverse America; one where religion or skin color or sexual orientation or place of birth aren’t liabilities or deficiencies or moral defects.
But advocates for affirmative action.  :o
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2016, 07:43:54 AM »
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Hillary supporters believe in a diverse America; one where religion or skin color or sexual orientation or place of birth aren’t liabilities or deficiencies or moral defects.

Except for white straight male Christians. They need to be deprogrammed of their toxicity and forced to surrender their privilege.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2016, 08:41:12 AM »
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Hillary supporters believe in a diverse America; one where religion or skin color or sexual orientation or place of birth aren’t liabilities or deficiencies or moral defects. Her campaign was one of inclusion and connection and interdependency. It was about building bridges and breaking ceilings. It was about going high.

Trump supporters believe in a very selective America; one that is largely white and straight and Christian

So long as they keep telling themselves this falsehood, we will continue to win and win big.  The small % we have ceded to them will become smaller.  NY and other liberal strongholds might even become purple.

We know why they do it.  They HAVE to lie to themselves to keep their megolomania fed.  "I am better than you.  You are not evolved. America is full of racist and sexist rubes and I am better that it."

Keep it up idjits.  Keep it up.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2016, 08:44:28 AM »
The theme of that mournful DUmmie Thread is: GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD!!!

Wouldn't it be great if they just finished the job? If this world is too cruel for them -- LEAVE!  At least a few DUmmies had the grace to do so when Bush beat Gore.  Come on, DUmmies, COMMIT!
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2016, 01:23:38 PM »
As usual, the reasons they lost are right in front of them (that is, if they care to look).

Hillary's defeat in no small part due to the fact that she ran a craptacular campaign. As has been mentioned many times, her campaign focus was "Don't elect Trump, Trump bad, Trump disaster", rather than why we should elect her. The rest was democratic party boilerplate.

I am baffled that some people looked at her and somehow saw a unifier and some sort of peace-through-love candidate. It defies explanation.