who's to blame?

[miskie]

They believed their own propoganda.

Coming to a discount bin near you.

[Karin]

That reminds me of an article I read yesterday that resonated with me.  American people, by and large, do not like being "ruled."  They'd rather think of their government as their employees:  Paid to do a job, and held accountable.  Progressivism throws that out the window and proceeds to tell us what and what not do, how to do it, and when.  The agencies become weaponized and the ruling class is created.  We hate that. 

[FunkyZero]

Not sure if you are old enough to remember but after 4 years of Jimmuh the country had been told endlessly we were in decline,we should not expect anything more then average and so on.
Then 1980 came along.

Not comparing the two men but it feels more like that again then it has since.

I was around 10 years old then so I wasn't paying much attention, I only learned to loath Carter later after seeing the devastation in historical reading.. mostly his financial policy and foreign relations wizardry that nearly tanked us.
I think I am probably just a victim of my own pessimism.  After Bush caving with is famous "bi-partisan" efforts, then 8 years of BLM, OWS, watching prices of everything double while our resident claimed inflation was near zero, I think I just lost the will to try or care. Or maybe it was just my method of trying to control my blood pressure and overall attitude. Call it self-preservation I guess.
Im the type (flawed or otherwise) that chooses to ignore the noise that pisses me off and just pay attention to the high-level generalities. But when actual laws start getting passed that erode our freedom and sovereignty, I start letting myself get dragged down with it. I get really negative.
It's difficult when you try to read the news and see stuff like this:

http://pamelageller.com/2016/11/democrat-defecates-public-on-trump-sign.html/

Anyway, I guess I go through the cycles like anyone else, sometimes it's difficult to remain objective and positive, it's just nice right now to at least see it Is possible to bail the water out faster than it's coming in. Let's see if we actually do it

[Carl]

I was around 10 years old then so I wasn't paying much attention, I only learned to loath Carter later after seeing the devastation in historical reading.. mostly his financial policy and foreign relations wizardry that nearly tanked us.
I think I am probably just a victim of my own pessimism.  After Bush caving with is famous "bi-partisan" efforts, then 8 years of BLM, OWS, watching prices of everything double while our resident claimed inflation was near zero, I think I just lost the will to try or care. Or maybe it was just my method of trying to control my blood pressure and overall attitude. Call it self-preservation I guess.
Im the type (flawed or otherwise) that chooses to ignore the noise that pisses me off and just pay attention to the high-level generalities. But when actual laws start getting passed that erode our freedom and sovereignty, I start letting myself get dragged down with it. I get really negative.
It's difficult when you try to read the news and see stuff like this:

http://pamelageller.com/2016/11/democrat-defecates-public-on-trump-sign.html/

Anyway, I guess I go through the cycles like anyone else, sometimes it's difficult to remain objective and positive, it's just nice right now to at least see it Is possible to bail the water out faster than it's coming in. Let's see if we actually do it

It is human nature and part of the marxist/leftist playbook to beat a person down as far as having hope outside of what government can provide for them.
The idea that the best is just not attainable on our own.

[CollectivismMustDie]

Dear Democrats and Liberals,
I'm noticing that a lot of you aren't graciously accepting the fact that your candidate lost. In fact you seem to be posting even more hateful things about those of us who voted for Trump.
Some of you are apparently "triggered". Because you are posting how "sick" you feel about the results.
How did this happen you ask.
You created "us" when you attacked our freedom of speech.
You created "us" when you attacked our right to bear arms.
You created "us" when you attacked our Christian beliefs.
You created "us" when you constantly referred to us as racists.
You created "us" when you constantly called us xenophobic.
You created "us" when you told us to get on board or get out of the way.
You created "us" when you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating.
You created "us" when you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country.
You created "us" when you attacked our flag.
You created "us" when you confused women's rights with feminism.
You created "us" when you began to immasculate men.
You created "us" when you decided to make our children soft.
You created "us" when you decided to vote for progressive ideals.
You created "us" when you attacked our way of life.
You created "us" when you decided to let our government get out of control.
"You" created "us" the silent majority.
And we became fed up and we pushed back and spoke up.
And we did it with ballots, not bullets.

Well said, Linda. All true, all of it.

Hi-5.



CMD

[Ptarmigan]

Who's to blame for the shellacking Messalina Agrippina took at the polls?

The superficial answer of course is she herself, the way she was her own worst enemy, lying and cheating and stealing and selling, but that's only on the surface.

Who was really to blame?

One has to go back to when Messalina Agrippina first started going bad, after the elections of 2008.  It's true she ended up in a high-ranking position, but it was still much lesser than the one she'd sought, that of becoming president.

One has to admit 2008 was supposed to be her year, the year she should've gotten the Democrat nomination, the year she was at the peak of her intellectual, mental, and physical powers.

But she didn't, and naturally resented it very much.  Being a persistent person, she decided to try again, and by God, no one was going to deny it to her this time.  She pulled all stops, stopping at nothing, no matter how devious and dishonest.

She wouldn't have been this way if she'd gotten the Democrat nomination when she deserved it more than any other person.

Why didn't she get it in 2008?

Because there were many Democrats anti-women, and other Democrats far more interested in being hip, cool, trendy, with it--and "black" was more "in," than "woman"--than in the good of the Democrat party.

And there's who to blame; white Democrats with guilty consciences about the way Democrats had treated blacks in the past, who wished to make amends by nominating a "black" guy.

Of course, the only thing Obozo has in common with Lamond is that they share the same color of skin; otherwise Obozo and franksolich are more alike in all else.  But being black-colored was good enough for most Democrats.

(They could've gotten two birds with one stone by nominating Cynthia McKinney, both a woman and an authentic black; one wonders why they didn't; I'm thinking it was because at heart, Democrats are anti-women).

There was going to be a black president sooner or later anyway; it didn't have to be in 2008; the blacks could've politely given the lady her turn first, but they and their white overlords got impatient, and shoved a pseudo-black man in front of her, getting her all upset and bent out of shape.

And so when "next time" came around, she wasn't about to let it slip away.

There's the answer; one can reasonably blame all this humiliation upon the Obozo Democrats of eight years ago, who turned her into a bitter cheating old woman.

Hillary Clinton would of been Barack Obama's third term. The election was a referendum on Obama.

There is also the rising premiums of Obamacare. That was a factor right there.

Clinton had her chance in 2008, but that went to Obama.

I remember Cynthia McKinney running in 2008. I thought she had a better shot than Clinton and Obama.

Obama won because he was seen as an outsider and relatively obscure. Clinton and McKinney were neither.

Hillary Clinton was in federal government since 1993 from First Lady, Senator, and Secretary Of State. She is the establishment. That right there did not good for her in 2016.

[67 Rover]

The Shillery mailed it in like Martha Coakley did in the Scott Brown race.  No energy, the arrogance and entitlement attitude all contributed.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Dear Democrats and Liberals,
I'm noticing that a lot of you aren't graciously accepting the fact that your candidate lost. In fact you seem to be posting even more hateful things about those of us who voted for Trump.
Some of you are apparently "triggered". Because you are posting how "sick" you feel about the results.
How did this happen you ask.
You created "us" when you attacked our freedom of speech.
You created "us" when you attacked our right to bear arms.
You created "us" when you attacked our Christian beliefs.
You created "us" when you constantly referred to us as racists.
You created "us" when you constantly called us xenophobic.
You created "us" when you told us to get on board or get out of the way.
You created "us" when you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating.
You created "us" when you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country.
You created "us" when you attacked our flag.
You created "us" when you confused women's rights with feminism.
You created "us" when you began to immasculate men.
You created "us" when you decided to make our children soft.
You created "us" when you decided to vote for progressive ideals.
You created "us" when you attacked our way of life.
You created "us" when you decided to let our government get out of control.
"You" created "us" the silent majority.
And we became fed up and we pushed back and spoke up.
And we did it with ballots, not bullets.

And they show no sign of learning. In fact, they're doubling down.

No one can agree with anyone 100% of the time. Yet, Proglodytes insist all who disagree be labelled with an ism. This means as everyone eventually comes to a conflict, no matter how be benign, the Proglodytes eventually label everyone. It is inevitable they will find themselves vastly outnumbered by those they consider deplorable.

But they're too arrogant to consider the math.

So... **** 'em.