primitives discuss election

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512566414

Oh my.

agnostic102 (193 posts)     Tue Nov 1, 2016, 01:34 AM

NC is NOT a lock please stop with these types of threads!

instead of having posters who are "concerned" banned we need to have people who say states are locked up and we won already NEED to be banned. wow this kind of thing enrages me to no end.

IF YOU ARE in nc have family or freinds there. PLEASE please tell them to vote. Its not a lock IN FACT not only its not a lock we are doing worse there then we were in 2012 a state we LOST in.

Democrats in north carolina vote republican. ALL the time. The problem is there is more democrats in NC then republicans so it always gives us a false sense of hope. Please refer to the 2014 and 2012 elections. The reason we lost NC in 2012 wasnt JUST because romney voters turn out in big numbers on election day. We had banked a big lead with NC democratic voters in 2012 where we should have won easily. You know why we lost? because lot of those democrats VOTED republican. especially in places like NC and west virginia.

Its the same thing this year. But not only that the KEY demographics that can be reliably used to predict vote for you side IE the african american vote for example is down 15-20 percent across many counties in north carolina. In fact the NYT times reported that virginia counties that went big for obama are down 50 percent in the AA vote.

Then on top of all of that, UNLIKE florida, and nevada, and colorado, and new mexico etc.. NC doesnt have a big hispanic population. Which means if we have a drop in AA vote we need to make that up somewhere and we seem to be doing that to some degree in places like nevada BUT we arent in North carolina.

another factor is the INDIE vote which many polls show is trending drumps way especially in NC. and there numbers in the early voting has rocketed.

This is a big democratic site. tens of thousands of people read these posts , When you CLAIM a state is locked up when we are in the prime days of voting you are doing hillary NO FAVORS.

agian if you are in or around NC please consider volunteering , driving folks to polling stations and or make sure to vote.

LisaL (27,888 posts)     Tue Nov 1, 2016, 01:37 AM

1. Exactly. People who post that NC is a lock don't seem to know much about voting in NC.

In 2012, democrats had a big lead in EV. All of it evaporated on election day. Democrats lost most of elections in NC. One can not assume anything about NC being a lock based on supposed EV numbers.

geek tragedy (65,515 posts)     Tue Nov 1, 2016, 01:42 AM

5. She has a good shot there, but far from guaranteed.

Unlike previous cycles, NC is looking much better than IA, OH and FL.

agnostic102 (193 posts)     Tue Nov 1, 2016, 01:55 AM

11. yeah

yeah i ts crazy OH and IA look downright terrible. Florida looks better but only because im counting on a big hispanic turnout. basically im counting on the hispanic vote to give clinton the presidency. (esp if the white folks in michigan and pa dont **** it up for us)

Charles Bukowski (336 posts)     Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:06 AM

13. Why are the polls being ignored here?

HRC leads in virtually every one, so it is false to say she is doing worse than Obama in NC.

Remember, it was Romney who led in virtually all the polls down the stretch en route to winning the state, not Obama.

Its not a lock, but it would be a sizeable upset if Trump were to win NC.

Spitfire of ATJ (32,140 posts)     Tue Nov 1, 2016, 04:09 AM

20. Another fear thread for Halloween.

[Carl]

They may be in for the biggest surprise of their pathetic lives in a week.

[franksolich]

They may be in for the biggest surprise of their pathetic lives in a week.

That's because they're letting the news media do their thinking for them.

I hope that's not the same case with this side.

God gave one brains; one's supposed to use them.

[Carl]

That's because they're letting the news media do their thinking for them.

I hope that's not the same case with this side.

God gave one brains; one's supposed to use them.

I am not making any predictions because we are fighting against the most corrupt person and entity (rat party) possibly in history but even here in NY one senses things are not what the media is hellbent on pushing.

[franksolich]

I am not making any predictions because we are fighting against the most corrupt person and entity (rat party) possibly in history but even here in NY one senses things are not what the media is hellbent on pushing.

That's why franksolich's First Rule of Everything: anything can happen, and usually does.

I expect nobody's (including myself) forecast this the way it's all actually going to turn out.....not least the news media and the primitives.

<<<am happy to sit back, relax, and get mellow while waiting.

[Carl]

Charles Bukowski (336 posts)     Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:06 AM

13. Why are the polls being ignored here?

HRC leads in virtually every one, so it is false to say she is doing worse than Obama in NC.

Remember, it was Romney who led in virtually all the polls down the stretch en route to winning the state, not Obama.

Its not a lock, but it would be a sizeable upset if Trump were to win NC.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

Notice a trend DUmbass?