primitives describe, discuss, Manny's jackass primitives

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512433848

Oh my.

And it's the bearded Alaska abominable snowman whining.

Ken Burch (43,449 posts)     Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:37 AM

I shouldn't have to say this, but I will...I am NOT part of JPR
 
Yes, I was a Sanders supporter. I opposed Hillary on sincere, legitimate disagreements about some of her policies.

But even when I did, even when I posted in anger about her, I never posted out of hatred.

And I always planned to do what I did shortly before the convention...endorse Hillary if nominated and support her in the fall. I am fully committed to making sure she wins and trying do all that I can to get votes for her.

At one point some other Sanders supporters invited me to join JPR, but I haven't.

And I won't.

I am not part of that site.

I've been told that some on JPR have referred to me as MIA. I'm not responsible for them referring to me in that way, and no, it does not prove that I'm sort of double agent working to undermine the Democratic Party. As far as I can tell, the term simply means that they expected me to join that site and are surprised that I have not done so.

All that I have done is to ask honest questions, make positive suggestions, and speak out for what I stand for, with no malicious or destructive intent. For this, I'm being treated like a traitor.

It has to stop. Not because of me as a person, but because the habit of treating honorable posters as untrustworthy and disloyal has no positive effect on this site, or those who post on it, or the chances of electing Democratic candidates at all levels in November.

We are all on the same side here, and no one here should have to prove they aren't operating out of hatred of our presidential nominee.

Please stop, before long-term damage is done to DU. 

<<<thinks the bearded Alaska abominable snowman does plenty of damage to Skins's island all by himself, with his really stupid comments on issues that make the whole place in turn look stupid.

NaturalHigh (12,550 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:38 AM

1. What the hell is JPR?
 
Is it some sort of freep site or something?

BobbyDrake (1,926 posts)      Fri Sep 23, 2016, 08:27 AM

34. Obi-Wan said it best...
 
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. 

liberalnarb (3,345 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:29 AM

39. You could at free republic.

BobbyDrake (1,926 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 11:08 AM

42. Having seen both, I stand by my comment.
 
When right-wingers demonstrate sexist and racist behavior, it's expected. When supposed progressives do the same, it's not. That makes the same behavior from the supposed progressives worse by comparison.

Ken Burch (43,449 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:35 PM

51. On that, I agree with you. Always have.
 
I actually think a lot of people at that site(from what I've heard)are paid Trump trolls, there only to guano-shuffle and incite toxicity.

The Velveteen Ocelot (46,106 posts)     Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:40 AM

3. I think you can safely ignore them.
 
JPR has become irrelevant. If they want to grumble among themselves that's fine, but nobody is paying any attention to them - they are a closed loop. All that anger is kind of sad, though, because JPR was set up to honor a DUer who passed away; he always seemed like a gentle soul, not an angry hater.

Wellstone ruled (7,148 posts)      Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:44 AM

5. Yes he was.
 
Did not have a mean bone in his body. 

riversedge (25,951 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 08:11 AM

32. YES, he was
 
a gentle soul. Loved wildlife. I attended his Remembrance Ceremony, which was held a Nature Conservatory, of which he was a part of.

Yes, he was an avid Sanders fan but that site is no way to honor the former DU member!

He was be appalled to see at such a vile site is in his name/honor. As others have said, the site started out OK, but has devolved--has become a hate site.

The only way to honor Jack Pine is to take that site down NOW. IMHO.

CaliforniaPeggy (120,350 posts)      Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:44 AM

7. I couldn't have said it better, my dear Ken Burch.
 
I am a member over there, except I never post. I did, a little, when I first joined, but my heart wasn't in it, and it still isn't. So now I just don't post.

I joined so I could stay in touch with my friends who have left DU. I was sorry to see them go, and I was willing to do what I could to stay in touch. But I am unwilling to join in conversations that I find unpleasant. So I stay away.

No one should treat you as a traitor! 

bettyellen (36,426 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 01:18 AM

13. It's good to hear you were never a member because the folks who started it were always transparently
 
Hateful not just to Hillary but to Obama and the majority of Dems period. There was never any doubt that it was a few rat ****ers who brainwashed the easily stirred up types here. They crossed into demented and hateful a long time before they started that place.
I'm sorry we lost a few seemingly good people but **** it, they want to swim in hatred it's their call. 

^^^one of the main liars for the red round one during the scam that rocked the internet eleven and a half years go.

DFW (21,244 posts)      Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:25 AM

21. Right from the beginning
 
You shouldn't have to say this.

What you post here matters here. Your membership (or lack of it) elsewhere has no bearing.

As for JPR, I again paraphrase GJ Cæsar: veni, vidi, satis (I came, I saw, I had enough).

LovingA2andMI (2,708 posts)     Fri Sep 23, 2016, 07:16 AM

28. That's An Interesting Bunch Over At....
 
JPR.

Joined originally as we're die-hard Bernie Supporters (and still are but respect he is backing Hillary now). However, it did not take long to notice the level of way down deep in the mud nature of that site.

When we're "threatened" literally for questioning a You-Tuber named Tim Black - who now by the way is promoting some quack that claims to "analyze" Hillary's Health - that was it for us. Have not posted over there since.

We had to mourn our Bernie but fully realize that a Racist, Bigoted, Fascist, Clown of a Man name Trump cannot ever step ONE TOE in the White House. With such, we are full #NeverEverTrump.

However, our concerns about enthusiasm still exist for Hillary. Ohio polls are 3-5% for the Clown. Michigan is too close for comfort. And Hillary's Marketing Team need to FLIP to have their ads talking about what SHE would do instead of what Trump is doing. Let her surrogates do that -- or save it for Campaign Rallies.

Either way, we understand how you feel. 

Well, I myself think it's high time Manny's jackass primitives returned home, to Skins's island, and that Skins takes all but two of them back, provided they act humble enough.

[Carl]

JPR is just primitives in their natural state with no tomb stoning for being who they all deep down are. 

[franksolich]

NurseJackie (10,575 posts)     Fri Sep 23, 2016, 07:49 PM

67. Oh dear! :-D
 
This is very amusing to me! 

Ken Burch (43,451 posts)      Fri Sep 23, 2016, 08:02 PM

68. You think it's amusing that my motives and loyalties have been questioned,
 
as have those of other good people here, when none of us have done anything to deserve that? 

Of course it's amusing, you old fat bearded grizzly snowman.

Any primitive who takes himself and his feelings too seriously is rollickingly amusing.

No need to be so full of yourself, stuffed like a stuffed parrot.

[franksolich]

Oh my.

tralala (237 posts)      Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:07 PM
response to the Ken Burch primitive

79. OMG get over yourself

And then earlier, there'd been this:

Jim Lane (8,554 posts)      Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:38 PM
response to the Ken Burch primitive

76. Could we stop with all this paid trolls stuff?
 
You've "heard" that "a lot of people" at JPR (not just some, but "a lot") are paid Trump trolls.

Meanwhile, on JPR just today, there's a thread warning about the infiltration of the site by paid Clinton trolls.

I have two newsflashes for all the posters on both sites vending stories like this:

1. There are subjects on which people sincerely disagree. Whatever position you hold on the presidential race or a similar topic, your position is not so overwhelmingly and obviously right that no one could possibly disagree with you unless they were being paid.

2. Some participants at, for example, newspapers' online comment sections may be open to persuasion. I wouldn't be surprised if both major-party campaigns are paying people to post there. But both campaigns know that the election is not going to be won, lost, or even noticeably affected by what's said on online boards like DU and JPR (or, for that matter, Free Republic), where everyone already has their minds made up. To be blunt about it, neither campaign gives a flying **** what happens on DU or JPR. They won't pay money to posters when they'd get more return by giving the same money to somebody standing out on a busy corner in a swing state with a clipboard and a bunch of voter registration forms.

BTW, I've posted on JPR about my reasons for reluctantly voting for Clinton. If it happens that you're right and I'm wrong about the perceived importance of these boards, can you hook me up with the Brooklyn HQ so I can start collecting whatever the standard rate is? TIA.

<<<apparently not the only one who thinks the Ken Burch primitive is full of himself.

[98ZJUSMC]

And, ... on and on it goes.  ANY disagreement with the party line or any show of insufficient deference to the addled Frau Panzersuit ist verboten and will be shouted down with mentally retarded boilerplate slogans coined by the most evil human filth in history. 

Die, you assholes.  Faster, please.

[franksolich]

A continuation, the first two quotes being duplicated from earlier comment so as to keep things in context:

NurseJackie (10,578 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 07:49 PM

67. Oh dear! :-D
 
This is very amusing to me! 

The nursing primitive, in case one doesn't remember, was one of the most stalwart defenders of Messalina Agrippina during that time the Bernie bullies tried taking over Skins's island.

Ken Burch (43,456 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 08:02 PM

68. You think it's amusing that my motives and loyalties have been questioned,
 
as have those of other good people here, when none of us have done anything to deserve that?

Okay, since then ^^^, this:

NurseJackie (10,578 posts)      Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:15 PM
response to the Ken Burch primitive

71. HA! It just gets better and better!

You're free to postulate until your heart's content. Your guesses are way off target (as per usual) but I'll let you know if you're getting warm.

Ken Burch (43,456 posts)      Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:17 PM

72. I'll just say this:
 
You know perfectly well I don't hate Hillary and that I don't want her to lose.

betsuni (3,631 posts)      Fri Sep 23, 2016, 08:45 PM
response to the nursing primitive's comment that she finds it amusing

70. Me too!

Ken Burch (43,456 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:18 PM

73. A person disproving unjustified accusations is amusing to you?
 
Grow up.

Cary (6,155 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:56 PM
response to the Ken Burch primitive above

84. Hahaba

Ken Burch (43,456 posts)    Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:52 AM

86. A response that would be somewhat more credible if you'd spelled "Hahaha" correctly.
 
I've proved over and over again that I support Hillary now and want her to win. Give it a rest.

betsuni (3,631 posts)    Sat Sep 24, 2016, 08:29 AM

89. "Grow up": Oh no! My legitimate sincere amusement is under accusation, my honor besmirched!
 
UNJUSTIFIED. Thanks for the positive suggestion. But wait! Someone was mean to me on the Internet and told me to grow up -- I AM THE VICTIM. ME ME ME. I now will write a carefully worded pseudo, pompous, passive-aggressive OP telling everyone else what to do. This will be fun, as an honorable poster. 

^^^the primitive nails the Ken Burch primitive right on the head; he's a pompous peacock who's always offering advice to professional Democrats as if he has some special insight and they care about what Ken Burch thinks.

The Ken Burch primitive's got to acquire some humility and modesty, realizing that he's hardly bright, he's only a cog in the Democrat machine, and so he needs to shut up and sit down and do as told by his betters.

tralala (238 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:07 PM
to the Ken Burch primitive

79. OMG get over yourself

NurseJackie (10,578 posts)    Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:23 PM
to the tralala primitive above

83. Precisely.
 
Thank you.

It's always a good show when the primitives themselves take on one of the more pompous, one of the more arrogant, one of the more insufferable, of their own.

[Carl]

What a wretched lot they all are.

[Karin]

"The addled Frau Panzersuit."   

[freedumb2003b]

OK, I too do not know what JPR is.

Is that as bad as not knowing what Aleppo is?

[fatboy]

I shouldn't have to say this, but I think Ben's Tube of Lube as been missing in action lately.

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:37 AM

Star Member Ken Burch (43,472 posts)

I shouldn't have to say this, but I will...I am NOT part of JPR
   
Yes, I was a Sanders supporter. I opposed Hillary on sincere, legitimate disagreements about some of her policies.

But even when I did, even when I posted in anger about her, I never posted out of hatred.

And I always planned to do what I did shortly before the convention...endorse Hillary if nominated and support her in the fall. I am fully committed to making sure she wins and trying do all that I can to get votes for her.

At one point some other Sanders supporters invited me to join JPR, but I haven't.

And I won't.

I am not part of that site.
..........

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512433848

Stupid thread but will bring over a few highlights.

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:38 AM

NaturalHigh (12,554 posts)

1. What the hell is JPR?
 
Is it some sort of freep site or something?

Ouch! You have just offended Manny Goldstein.

Response to Ken Burch (Reply #51)

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:38 PM

Jim Lane (8,556 posts)

76. Could we stop with all this paid trolls stuff?  <-- Let's ask farmgirl1961 for her opinion
 
You've "heard" that "a lot of people" at JPR (not just some, but "a lot") are paid Trump trolls.

"Paid' in the sense that the Trump organization has promised a salary but will they actually sent a paycheck???

Response to Bill USA (Reply #56)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:43 PM

meadowlark5 (873 posts)

101. I did a search because I didn't know what it was
 
Some message forum called Jackpine Radicals. If you're interested, do a search and check out the forum.

Half of the old DUers are posting there using their old DU screen names you you had to google it?

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:40 AM

Star Member The Velveteen Ocelot (46,150 posts)

3. I think you can safely ignore them.
 
JPR has become irrelevant. If they want to grumble among themselves that's fine, but nobody is paying any attention to them - they are a closed loop. All that anger is kind of sad, though, because JPR was set up to honor a DUer who passed away; he always seemed like a gentle soul, not an angry hater.

DUmmy JerkPine Radical was an idiot.

Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 08:11 AM

riversedge (26,019 posts)

32. YES, he was
 
a gentle soul. Loved wildlife. I attended his Remembrance Ceremony, which was held a Nature Conservatory, of which he was a part of.

Yes, he was an avid Sanders fan but that site is no way to honor the former DU member!

He was be appalled to see at such a vile site is in his name/honor. As others have said, the site started out OK, but has devolved--has become a hate site.
The only way to honor Jack Pine is to take that site down NOW. IMHO.

I have an idea! Let's hire onehandle and Hoyt to walk hand in hand into Manny's office and demand the keys to the server!

[fatboy]

Oppps I see this has already been covered by Frank

http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=109135.0

Sorry, carry on.

[franksolich]

Oppps I see this has already been covered by Frank

http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=109135.0

Sorry, carry on.

It happens, no sweat.

But one does have to be careful; there's a big difference between this slob, the Ken Burch primitive, and the long-ago tombstoned ben burch primitive, Fat Che.