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Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« on: August 13, 2016, 07:46:01 PM »
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Wed Aug 10, 2016, 07:39 PM

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Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
I do find myself rooting for the USA and I wonder if others do too.

That you have to ask such a retarded question speaks volumes..

Speaking of retarded.

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Wed Aug 10, 2016, 07:45 PM

Star Member uppityperson (105,283 posts)
1. No. And I find NBCs Ameican-centric coverage annoying. I am proud of all the athlete's hard

work to get there.

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Wed Aug 10, 2016, 07:46 PM

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2. Not really....

I kind of gave up on the Olympics many years ago.

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Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:30 PM

Star Member LWolf (45,184 posts)
6. I don't watch the Olympics.

And I've never been a proud American. An ambivalent American, a disgusted American, a humiliated American...but never proud.

When I was younger I'd watch a bit of the Olympics. Somehow my interest in competitive sports has dwindled to almost nothing over the decades.

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Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:34 PM

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9. Agreed

I do like bobsleds and luge from the Winter Games, but beyond that most sports are not very entertaining.

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Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:30 PM

Star Member RKP5637 (40,948 posts)
28. I've never been an overly proud American, some of what America does is very embarrassing. Certainly

not the worst, but could be far better. And I'm speaking in general, not specifically to the Olympics.

I'm glad the athletes have a chance to compete and their skills are absolutely amazing

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Thu Aug 11, 2016, 09:59 AM

Star Member LWolf (45,184 posts)
44. I have no problem

with their competing. It's their thing. It's not mine. I'm fine with people pursuing their passion.

I think I'm not fine with competitions that are about nationalism, rather than for the sake of the athlete or the sport. It's funny; I wouldn't even have thought about it that way if it hadn't been pointed out to me in this thread.

Die in a fire asshole.

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Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:33 PM

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8. No

Olympics are a huge waste of resources, and the game is rigged.

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Wed Aug 10, 2016, 09:04 PM

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11. Not exactly, although I do enjoy the flag ceremonies.

I always feel bad for the poor countries who have no chance of winning anything. You know they are trying their hearts out, but don't have the advantages of the wealthier countries.

BTW, NBC'S coverage of gymnastics has been atrocious.

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Wed Aug 10, 2016, 09:19 PM

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17. I will defer to Mr. Bill Hicks on this.

You can be proud of that watercolor painting you worked so hard on, that you finally got to look exactly right after about the 20th time.

You can be proud that your son got a B in Algebra. He got a C- minus last semester, but you and he stayed up late every school night since then working through all the problems to make sure he understood the material. Good job, son. Good job, Dad or Mom.

But to say you're proud to be an American means that you feel accomplished that your parents ****ed in the United States.

Your father jerked off in a flower pot and raised a blooming idiot.

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Thu Aug 11, 2016, 05:51 AM

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37. Only if the medal winner is a Vermonter- and there's like zero chance of that in the summer

I'm unabashedly partisan when it comes to my state.

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Thu Aug 11, 2016, 06:48 AM

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39. No I'm already a proud American, the medals are just icing on the cake.

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Thu Aug 11, 2016, 09:18 AM

Star Member whatthehey (3,190 posts)
42. Some strange wording is typical in these situations

Not just here BTW.

I'm perfectly content to be American. I'm glad it's neither a lawless shithole like Somalia nor a theocratic shithole like Saudi Arabia. It's comforting to be in a place that is, for most of its citizens at any rate, a place of comfortable and open self-determination. It could improve in many ways from welfare spending and its inverse military spending to healthcare to puritanism, but that doesn't move the place even close to shithole territory. With a few different quibbles I however would be an equally content Dane or Spaniard or Kiwi.

Proud though? Of what? Genetic accident of birthplace? That I didn't decide to go through all the hoops to leave permanently? That I have the same cultural trappings as most of the people I come across? What's to be proud of in being shaped by huge societal processes? Pride is for achievement and success, not circumstance. Sports teams? Not really an issue for me. I'm like a lot of people in rooting casually for underdogs and unusual participants. I'd get more positive about a US win in, say, biathlon than in basketball, where it's simply a case of going through the motions. But even then it's "Oh cool, a Khazakstani gold in swimming." I'm not going to remember his name tomorrow. Certainly more or less expected US wins engender no satisfaction. My only response to yet another Phelps gold is to ruminate on his longevity, dominance and the good fortune of swimmers in having so many similar events. I'd think exactly the same about a dominant Russian gymnast, the nationality doesn't matter.

I do confess a hypocritical albeit very minor interest in appreciating the wins of a former local MLB team, but since they are perennial cellar dwellers that may just be the underdog thing.

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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2016, 09:23:04 PM »
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28. I've never been an overly proud American, some of what America does is very embarrassing. Certainly

not the worst, but could be far better. And I'm speaking in general, not specifically to the Olympics.

I'm glad the athletes have a chance to compete and their skills are absolutely amazing

DU did originate in America so the DUmmie does have a point about some doings being very embarrassing.
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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2016, 01:12:52 AM »
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42. Some strange wording is typical in these situations

Not just here BTW.

I'm perfectly content to be American. I'm glad it's neither a lawless shithole like Somalia nor a theocratic shithole like Saudi Arabia. It's comforting to be in a place that is, for most of its citizens at any rate, a place of comfortable and open self-determination. It could improve in many ways from welfare spending and its inverse military spending to healthcare to puritanism, but that doesn't move the place even close to shithole territory. With a few different quibbles I however would be an equally content Dane or Spaniard or Kiwi.

Proud though? Of what? Genetic accident of birthplace? That I didn't decide to go through all the hoops to leave permanently? That I have the same cultural trappings as most of the people I come across? What's to be proud of in being shaped by huge societal processes? Pride is for achievement and success, not circumstance. Sports teams? Not really an issue for me. I'm like a lot of people in rooting casually for underdogs and unusual participants. I'd get more positive about a US win in, say, biathlon than in basketball, where it's simply a case of going through the motions. But even then it's "Oh cool, a Khazakstani gold in swimming." I'm not going to remember his name tomorrow. Certainly more or less expected US wins engender no satisfaction. My only response to yet another Phelps gold is to ruminate on his longevity, dominance and the good fortune of swimmers in having so many similar events. I'd think exactly the same about a dominant Russian gymnast, the nationality doesn't matter.

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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2016, 07:18:41 AM »
Meanwhile...


YAY PUERTO RICO!

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Everybody is allowed to be proud...except Americans...particularly white male heterosexual xtian Americans.
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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2016, 08:10:27 AM »
Meanwhile...


YAY PUERTO RICO!

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Everybody is allowed to be proud...except Americans...particularly white male heterosexual xtian Americans.

Do DU-folk know:

* That Puerto Rico is a US Territory?

* That Puerto Ricans have voted/opposed several times against both statehood or independence?

* That just 2 of Puerto Rico's 11 elected governors have been from parties affiliated with the Rs (both for single 4-year terms), only one in the past 43 years? And Puerto Rico has been been inching it's way toward sovereign bankruptcy for those same 43 years?
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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2016, 01:45:35 PM »
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Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
I do find myself rooting for the USA and I wonder if others do too.

Nope. Being an American and being proud of what America stands for, makes me a proud American (if you are confused, look at the list of things you hate about America, and you are sure to find examples,)

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28. I've never been an overly proud American, some of what America does is very embarrassing. Certainly

not the worst, but could be far better.

This election is sure to prove that, as millions (including you) vote for Madam Stumpy with a smile.

And yeah, she is the worst.


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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2016, 02:39:54 PM »
Carl, my kudos to your responses.
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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
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1. No. And I find NBCs Ameican-centric coverage annoying. I am proud of all the athlete's hard

work to get there.

NBC coverage of Olympics is mostly commercials and human interest stories mixed with leftist politics.
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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2016, 06:55:20 AM »
Who's been running this terrible, awful no-good, embarrassing country for the last 7 1/2 years DUmmies? 

IIRC, that LWolf really is a dyed-in-the-wool communist. 

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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2016, 08:31:48 PM »
Not being a democrat makes me proud to be an American,
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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2016, 04:52:21 AM »
Not being a democrat makes me proud to be an American,

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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2016, 05:58:26 AM »
Oh, wait.

They found a reason to be proud an American won a medal...


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Swimming’s Racist Past Makes Simone Manuel’s Win an Even Bigger Deal
   
Swimming’s Racist Past Makes Simone Manuel’s Win an Even Bigger Deal

 Racism and segregation kept many African Americans from learning to swim—a fact we can’t forget while celebrating Simone Manuel’s historic Olympic gold medal 

blah-blah-blah...

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Re: Do medals in the olympics make you a proud American???
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2016, 06:19:34 AM »
Oh, wait.

They found a reason to be proud an American won a medal...


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OK, I get the issue of blacks not being allowed in public pools - without questioning to what degree that actually happened - but how is that the fault of the sport rather than of owners of public pools and their customers who demanded that exclusion? Then, too, for how many decades have black athletes been competing in swimming sports? Simone Manuel certainly wasn't affected by exclusion of blacks from public swimming facilities, nor was her mother, nor, very possibly, was her grandmother (not that many DU-folk know that much History and Math).

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NBC coverage of Olympics is mostly commercials and human interest stories mixed with leftist politics.

Mrs, SVP and I watched some of the men's indoor volleyball match between the US and Mexico. Not only did NBC use the utterly worthless back of the court camera angles to cover some of the volleys - one of our pet peeves, for decades - but at one point NBC used most of the screen for static shots of certain players and the Mexican coach to yack about their connections to the Penn State volleyball program. They did this during one or more volleys!
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