Malice celebrates mass murdering commies 90th

[Carl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028095732

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 02:31 PM

Star Member malaise (144,746 posts)

Happy 90th birthday Fidel
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/12/americas/cuba-fidel-castro-at-90-after-assassination-plots/index.html
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The left always celebrates evil.

A few sane replies and then we are off.

Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 04:00 PM

Uponthegears (942 posts)
8. OOOOOOR

A liberator who freed millions from the "glory" of being ruled by a puppet.of US multinational corporations and then helped his people overcome the unprincipled economic assault of the most powerful nation on earth.

Response to Uponthegears (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 05:44 PM

Star Member Grey (1,411 posts)
9. Yes, ^^this^^

Thank You.

Response to Uponthegears (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:14 PM

Star Member malaise (144,746 posts)
10. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

They are saints you know -how many times did they try to kill him again??

Response to Uponthegears (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:26 PM

bluesbassman (18,180 posts)
11. So he took over ruling them himself,

while becoming bondservants of the USSR? The devil, as always, is in the details.

Response to bluesbassman (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:56 PM

Uponthegears (942 posts)
14. "Bondservants"

of the USSR?

Is that little piece of flotsam a red-baiting term for Castro having to turn to Russia for BOTH security and trade when its natural trading partner decided to do everything possible to destroy Cuban economy and assassinate their leader?

Given the enemies he faced and the lengths to which they went, Castro accomplished miracles.

Response to hack89 (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 11:19 PM

Uponthegears (942 posts)
17. "True" democracy

Or democracy contaminated, if not by direct influence by Western dollars, then most certainly contaminated by the hardships created by near-genocidal US policies (yes, if we had imposed those policies on a small country that lacked the vision and the effort of the Cuban people, they would have killed tens of thousands)?

Response to Uponthegears (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 14, 2016, 12:31 AM

bluesbassman (18,180 posts)
22. Oh please. Castro allowed the USSR unfettered access to his island.

In return they propped up his economy for decades and stifled any hope the Cuban people had for self determination. Only Castro knows what was in his heart, but the Russians had no desire to help the Cuban people, rather their desire was purely to gain strategic advantage in the Cold War.

Response to bluesbassman (Reply #22)

Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:59 AM

Uponthegears (942 posts)
26. And exactly where was Cuba to turn?

To the US who had propped up Batista as he was terrorizing the poor and trying to assassinate Castro so the same pack of rich pigs could return an re-assume their rolls as masters?

Cuba under Batista had the direct assistance of not just the US government and the Banana Republic puppeteers and STILL imprisoned and murdered thousands of its working people. When Castro did similar things among the (thank you capitalism) smaller group of elites, who, unlike the poor under Batista, were actually trying to kill him, he had to make Cuba function not just without the assistance of his neighbors but in the face of their open disruption.

The Castro haters give FRA about democracy. Batista is the proof.

Response to Uponthegears (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 14, 2016, 12:49 AM

ronnie624 (5,227 posts)
24. A vastly more realistic view.

Those who vilify, hold their own government's conduct, to a completely different set of standards.

Response to ronnie624 (Reply #24)

Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:39 AM

Star Member malaise (144,746 posts)
36. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Sometimes I laugh

Says a 1 percenter.

Response to Uponthegears (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:53 AM

Star Member madokie (47,428 posts)
32. YES

the truth will out

Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:51 AM

heaven05 (11,921 posts)
31. A TRUE HERO

Happy Birthday!

Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:41 AM

flamingdem (33,780 posts)
37. It's not about Fidel, only, it's about the US domination of

Cuba starting in the 19th Century.

Fidel is a product of that.

Imperfect as the revolution there was - it happened for a reason. The Cubans have too strong of an identity to be absorbed by the USA as happened to Puerto Rico and other countries.

Even when Obama took his historic step he was still about domination of the island. Everything has to been seen through a US centric lens - rather than a more humble recognition of the reasons for the Cuban revolution and the UNTOLD SUFFERING caused by the US embargo against the people of Cuba.

I am ashamed of how our country has treated Cuba. We owe them.

Next time I take a shit I will send the Castros some.

esponse to malaise (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 11:38 PM

Star Member X_Digger (17,269 posts)
19. **** that old fart. Good bait to see all the closet communists at DU though.

Almost as good a bit of bait as a Venezuela post.

Subtract our moles and that is 90 percent of what is left.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

Of course they celebrate the birth of that repulsive Commie tyrant.

[SVPete]

Mehhhh. Compared to Stalin or Mao, Castro was a piker. The Black Book of Communism estimates that through the late 1990s the number of Cubans executed were a mere 15,000-17,000, with another 100,000 Cubans imprisoned - and possibly not surviving. That said, Cuba's population is only on the order of 10M, so Castro had less than a tenth of the opportunity Stalin and Mao had.

[FlaGator]

Happy Birthday Fidel! You're going to be meeting God soon so it is a good thing you're use to a warm climate.

[Ptarmigan]

Mehhhh. Compared to Stalin or Mao, Castro was a piker. The Black Book of Communism estimates that through the late 1990s the number of Cubans executed were a mere 15,000-17,000, with another 100,000 Cubans imprisoned - and possibly not surviving. That said, Cuba's population is only on the order of 10M, so Castro had less than a tenth of the opportunity Stalin and Mao had.

Don't forget Pol Pot. He killed a third of his own people in Cambodia.

Let's not forget Mengistu Haile Mariam. He killed 2 million people and caused a huge famine.

[98ZJUSMC]

Of course they celebrate the birth of that repulsive Commie tyrant.

Ahhhh... that's why they luv thair puBlik sKools. 

[SVPete]

Don't forget Pol Pot. He killed a third of his own people in Cambodia.

Let's not forget Mengistu Haile Mariam. He killed 2 million people and caused a huge famine.

Speaking less scarcastically that I was above, in pretty much every place some form of Marxist socialism has taken full power mass murder and starvation of innocents has happened. The closest to exceptions I know of - and my knowledge may be incomplete - are Nicaragua and Venezuela, and they may "merely" have been less monstrous than Castro, who was a smaller monster among worse monsters like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim I, II, & III, and Mengistu.

All that said, small or large monster, Castro was a monster. He deserves to be wished to meet his maker, not a happy birthday.