http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027911554 Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:51 PM
markpkessinger (6,965 posts)
Can we just be honest about what was really going on with the Orlando shooter?
Look, as a gay man, I know the classic signs of a repressed closet case when I see them. The shooter's own father said his son had become angry a few weeks back after seeing two men kissing in public, the guy was apparently a regular at the club he shot up, and Gawker has reported he had a profile on a gay dating site. The whole ISIS bit was nothing than a covet for him. This was a disturbed individual who couldn't handle the feelings that were stirring inside himself, and acted out in a violent, murderous rage. It's a scenario all too familiar to those of us in the LGBT community. For ****'s sake already, to turn this into some grand example of 'Jihad' against the U.S. is to glorify it far beyond what it deserves!
Can`t be terrorism,has to be a demented fag.
Response to markpkessinger (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:52 PM
Star Member villager (25,443 posts)
1. Exactly. Like the workplace shooting in San Bernardino. But if you can conflate it with "terrorism,"
...you can scare more people, while ignoring root causes, getting license to peel away more peoples' rights, etc...
Funny how jihadists calling themselves jihadists means nothing.
Response to markpkessinger (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:53 PM
oswaldactedalone (1,333 posts)
3. Looking like
you're probably right. Still, we should not be allowing people on terrorist watch lists and no fly lists, to be purchasing weapons. Hope the Dems will use this to beat the Thuglicans over the head with it.
Yeah,have at it.

Response to markpkessinger (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:56 PM
philosslayer (2,447 posts)
4. Exactly
Hate crime; NOT terrorism.
Exactly,you are a joke.
Response to markpkessinger (Original post)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:58 PM
Star Member elleng (68,710 posts)
5. If only more than just a few could see and admit this.
I'm not optimistic.
I think it has something to do with you folks being insane retards.
Response to JI7 (Reply #8)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:17 AM
HooptieWagon (16,999 posts)
17. Once or twice would have been plenty to case the joint.
It sounds like he visited a few dozen times over several years.
The whole bit about pledging to ISIS was one last attempt to repress and cover up his sexuality. He wasn't a radical Islamic terrorist, he was just a ****ed up dude who finally exploded in rage. Terrorist watch list isn't geared to detect that.
Crazy flamer is the DUmp answer.
Response to markpkessinger (Original post)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:26 AM
Star Member AgadorSparticus (4,029 posts)
20. Your post makes me wonder if he isn't a deluded jilted lover
He has been going to this club for 3 years. That's not casing anymore. That is a vested interest. It makes me wonder if became enrage after seeing the 2 men kissing because he was infatuated with one of them and felt jilted. I guess we will never know....
In other words "we all know how hysterical a queer is."
Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #24)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:45 AM
David__77 (16,077 posts)
63. A lot of people on this board are not comfortable dealing with the subject of Islamist terrorism.
It is so, so much more comfortable to be downgraded to a "hate crime" or this apparent new twist of a crime motivated by self-hatred. There are organizations dedicated to wiping out homosexuals, and states actually run by such people abroad. There are ideologies being propagated in this country, including by foreigners. All that, I think, is too much for some people to look at.
Sorry,muzzie butcher trumps butt ranger at the DUmp.
Response to David__77 (Reply #63)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:51 AM
Star Member Behind the Aegis (39,526 posts)
66. As witnessed by many posts in this thread.
They "assure" us there is NO connection, NONE WHATSOEVER, to religion, but rumors about his trolling gay bars, that is TRUTH! It is all so ****ing predictable and disgusting. Even more disgusting is if one were to take trip down memory lane (advanced search) and then we will really see "truth will out!"
The actual facts point out once more that you mutts are wrong about everything.
Besides,we have the queers locked in as a voting group so who cares about them.
Learn the liberal way.
Response to markpkessinger (Original post)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:59 AM
ileus (14,308 posts)
90. So we're dismissing the terrorist watch list and FBI check thing now?
and running with he was a oppressed gay???
Yes and here is why.
Response to markpkessinger (Original post)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:30 AM
PatrickforO (4,503 posts)
40. There is a lot of green (as in profits for the MIC) in terror.
So anytime they can ever conflate something like this with terrorism, they will. Because the forever war on terror is designed for one thing only - to keep us in fear so we will allow our tax dollars to profit companies like Halliburton.
That money should be used for free shit for me!!!!!
Sorry back door men,just grovel at the feet of your fellow mutants and know your place in the leftist hierarchy.