http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512001896Oh my.
This issue's got to be a festering sore and source of resentment for professional Democrats who've put their lives, their money, their hopes, and their energies into the Democrat party, only to see the
nouveau-Democrat Bernie bullies try to take what they've built, away from them.
RBInMaine (12,057 posts) Thu May 19, 2016, 04:29 AM
^^^a prominent supporter of Messalina Agrippina, and like Nurse Jackie, a pretty robust one
"Open up the party." Bernie, seriously?
This from a guy who, going way back into the past, TRASHED the party? From the guy who was never a member of the party? From the guy who in fact HAS been WELCOMED into the party by both the national committee and state committees all over the country? My goodness, for SHAME.
Want to be welcomed into the party? Go to your town hall and REGISTER, and then you can be a member of the party. There, the doors ARE open. Want to have more influence in the party? Then ORGANIZE PROPERLY to have more influence, starting with recruiting candidates to run for office AT ALL LEVELS of government. In other words, create a REAL political movement and not just a bunch of hot-headed yelling and screaming at rallies and state conventions.
Sanders' rhetoric about the party "not being open" to his supporters has got to be the most hyperbolic load of steaming bullshit said in this campaign. And it is only fanning the flames of the kind of DELUSIONAL conspiracy theories that led to the DISGUSTING behaviors we saw in Nevada.
Bernie should simply be strongly condemning the outrageous actions that SOME of this people did in Nevada, talking about his values and issues, and training his fire on the right wing lunatic Trump. His continued CRAP-MOUTHING of the DNC only inflames the wild-eyed radicals who are doing ILLEGAL and DISGUSTING crud like threatening people such as the chair of a state party, using the c-word, booing strong progressives like Barbara Boxer, harassing super delegates, disrupting conventions, posting vile and disgusting slime online, and all the rest. It is feeding the DELUSIONAL narrative that everything in the world is "rigged" and "corrupt" which is just ridiculous and unfounded paranoia.
In Nevada, Hillary won the caucuses and had more delegates come to the state convention. END OF STORY! Nothing was "rigged"!
Bernie is losing credibility and respect. He is BETTER than this, and he needs to SHOW it.
<<<doesn't think Methuselah's "better" than this; in fact, thinks we haven't seen the worst side of him yet, his
real side.
jillan (38,552 posts) Thu May 19, 2016, 04:32 AM
1. Have fun in November without the support of independents and those horrible Bernie supporters that
you continue to push away.
highprincipleswork (2,472 posts) Thu May 19, 2016, 04:34 AM
2. Hillary supporters have got to be some of the most ill-mannered, condescending, self-destructive,
conceited for the wrong reasons, alleged winners that I have ever seen.
Try a little inclusion and graciousness for a change. Or don't.
The Democratic Party, acting to exclude and piss others off, is playing a very short game. Perhaps just as short and ill-advised as all the triangulating and compromising they have been doing for so long.
I imagine you will keep doing it, because you just can't control yourself. Let's just say, though, your personal traits leave a lot to be desired themselves, to be honest. Look in a mirror sometime.
RBInMaine (12,057 posts) Thu May 19, 2016, 05:00 AM
5. You attack me but not my points. That says it all. How are you not being allowed into the party?
"Open the doors."???? Seriously? How are the doors being closed to you? How are they being closed to Bernie? He HAS been welcomed into the party by the DNC and all the state committees when he has NEVER even been a Democrat before.
Saying this CRUD only fans the flames of delusional conspiracy theories that everything in the world is "rigged" and "corrupt" which in turns fans the flames of the radicals who are engaged the most vile behavior imaginable in a campaign.
And, I have always said I thought Bernie was a good person with his heart in the right place on issues. But, his wild-eyed rhetoric of late and continued trashing of the very party that DID welcome him in is DISGUSTING. For shame.
<<<never thought the old sourassed sourpuss a good person with his heart in the right place; in fact, think that we haven't yet seen the
real side of the bitter old mental midget.
woolldog (7,976 posts) Thu May 19, 2016, 06:05 AM
9. They are mixing up "the doors being closed to them"
with losing. The doors aren't closed. They just lost. They lost, so everything must be corrupt and the system must be rigged against them. It couldnt possibly be that Democratic voters in a Democratic primary prefer Clinton.
Remember this is the generation where everyone wins and gets participation trophies. They don't understand that you win some and you lose some, so they are throwing tantrums
Surya Gayatri (12,812 posts) Thu May 19, 2016, 05:59 AM
7. ^^^A-friggin'-men^^^
Sanders' rhetoric about the party "not being open" to his supporters has got to be the most hyperbolic load of steaming bullshit said in this campaign.
Uh huh.
You know, franksolich is only an outsider looking in, for whatever that's worth, but I've always found the Democrat party to be welcoming of all who seek entrance, provided only that they're enthusiastic about abortion. Being enthusiastic about abortion is all that's needed to get one in.
I really doubt any Bernie bully's been denied admission, or even let in only grudgingly.
The problem here is, if the Bernie bullies don't get to run the Democrat party, they aren't going to join the Democrat party and get involved.
woolldog (7,976 posts) Thu May 19, 2016, 06:00 AM
8. I told you...
he's nothing but a demagogue.
It's funny because Bernies actions in bashing the party, not knowing when to call it quits, and hurting our chances in the GE at the top and bottom of the ticket are likely to make the party less open, not more. Once bitten twice shy. In retrospect, no way should they have been as welcoming to Bernie and they will not be in the future to that type of candidate. And for good reason.
