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Offline dutch508

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I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« on: March 13, 2016, 06:32:30 PM »
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Ted Cruz Is 100% Ineligible To Run For The U.S. Presidency


Ted Cruz Barry Obama  Ted Cruz has never been (thoroughly) vetted when it comes to his own citizenship claims. He must produce all relevant documents, at least a few of the official papers our own President Obama was erroneously accused of lacking. We know for a fact that he was born in Calgary, so there's one minor anomaly worth investigating. Legal Scholars like Lawrence Tribe at Harvard Law School & Mary B. McManamon of the University of Delaware's Widener School of Law agree that Senator Ted Cruz is ineligible to run for the U.S. Presidency. Remember though, voters in the GOP will ignore certain shortcomings that could never be overlooked in a 'Blah' President.

They have been basing those opinions mostly on their interpretations in the U.S. Constitution's Article Two clause of "natural-born" citizen.
Given that Ted Cruz was born in Canada and similar to the US Constitution, any child born in Canada after 1947 was granted full citizenship.. We must look to Canadian Law first.

I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law between 1947-1977 and agree with (experts) them based on the following:


http://crooksandliars.com/2016/03/ted-cruz-100-ineligible-run-us-presidency

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4. You're aware that this concept has been in the courts multiple times...

... with no resolution. The OP has his (Trump's) opinion, but it's just an opinion.

When buzzy is the voice of reason you know you are seriously ****ed up.

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17. WTF are you saying?

Obama birthers made up lies about him. No one is making up anything about Cruz.

The facts of his birth are crystal clear.


Good try though.

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88. Ted Cruz is not a "natural born" citizen he is a naturalized citizen

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution states: "No Person except a natural born Citizen ... shall be eligible to the Office of President." The original structure of the Constitution does suggest that "natural born" was meant to contain a geographic component of birth in the United States. The "Inhabitant" requirements for senators and representatives in Article I of the Constitution clearly were intended to be geographic. Since the qualifications stated for president contain no other obvious parallel geographic reference, it would seem the framers meant the "natural born" citizenship requirement for president to refer to those born geographically in the United States.

The framers, however, contemplated later migration into the United States and authorized Congress in Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 to provide means of acquiring citizenship by naturalization for those who were not natural born citizens. Thus, as originally drafted, the Constitution recognized only two means of acquiring national citizenship – "natural born" citizens (birthright citizenship), and naturalization.

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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2016, 07:01:10 PM »
Frankly, I was hoping the DU-member was researching Canadian immigration law for the purpose of going there if an R won the Presidency. Ah, well ...

Besides the obvious, "Good riddance!" aspect, it might be interesting to see a DU-member's reaction to immigration laws that have requirements that are actually enforced.
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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2016, 07:22:30 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on March 13, 2016, 07:01:10 PM
Frankly, I was hoping the DU-member was researching Canadian immigration law for the purpose of going there if an R won the Presidency. Ah, well ...

Besides the obvious, "Good riddance!" aspect, it might be interesting to see a DU-member's reaction to immigration laws that have requirements that are actually enforced.


      Even more settled than the question of Cruz's eligibility is the fact that Canada doesn't want anything to do with bloodsucking sponges like the denizens of DU.
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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2016, 07:24:03 PM »
Quote from: dutch508 on March 13, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2016, 07:45:52 PM »
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Ted Cruz Is 100% Ineligible To Run For The U.S. Presidency


Ted Cruz Barry Obama  Ted Cruz has never been (thoroughly) vetted when it comes to his own citizenship claims. He must produce all relevant documents, at least a few of the official papers our own President Obama was erroneously accused of lacking. We know for a fact that he was born in Calgary, so there's one minor anomaly worth investigating. Legal Scholars like Lawrence Tribe at Harvard Law School & Mary B. McManamon of the University of Delaware's Widener School of Law agree that Senator Ted Cruz is ineligible to run for the U.S. Presidency. Remember though, voters in the GOP will ignore certain shortcomings that could never be overlooked in a 'Blah' President.

They have been basing those opinions mostly on their interpretations in the U.S. Constitution's Article Two clause of "natural-born" citizen.
Given that Ted Cruz was born in Canada and similar to the US Constitution, any child born in Canada after 1947 was granted full citizenship.. We must look to Canadian Law first.

I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law between 1947-1977 and agree with (experts) them based on the following:


http://crooksandliars.com/2016/03/ted-cruz-100-ineligible-run-us-presidency

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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2016, 07:51:07 PM »
Obviously a liberal "constitutional" expert. We know how much they understand the true meaning of by watching another brilliant liberal constitutional scholar, Obama.  :rofl:
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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2016, 07:54:40 PM »
Dutch . . .

:jerkit:

Does that work?
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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2016, 08:41:52 PM »
Quote from: BannedFromDU on March 13, 2016, 07:22:30 PM

      Even more settled than the question of Cruz's eligibility is the fact that Canada doesn't want anything to do with bloodsucking sponges like the denizens of DU.

The DU folk would know or learn part of that, but the leeches among them don't have the awareness of their leech-hood to realize their full problem.
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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2016, 09:26:22 PM »
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A primitive of no prominence

We must look to Canadian Law first.

You DUmbshit. Canadian law is immaterial to interpretation of the US Constitution or US laws.
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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2016, 09:52:32 PM »
Ted Cruz has a US passport, issued by the State Dept
The State Dept issues passports only to natural-born and naturalized citizens
Ted Cruz has never gone through a naturalization process
Therefore, the only way for Ted Cruz to have a US Passport is to be a natural-born citizen
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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2016, 09:55:46 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on March 13, 2016, 09:26:22 PM
You DUmbshit. Canadian law is immaterial to interpretation of the US Constitution or US laws.

I think it makes perfect sense that to understand my mortgage I should first understand your auto loan.
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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2016, 10:21:19 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on March 13, 2016, 07:54:40 PM
Dutch . . .

:jerkit:

Does that work?


Eh...

He doesn't look happy though.
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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2016, 10:50:02 PM »
Quote from: dutch508 on March 13, 2016, 10:21:19 PM

Eh...

He doesn't look happy though.
Do you laugh and smile.

Just askin'




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Re: I have been researching Canadian Immigration Law...
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2016, 09:20:02 AM »
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17. WTF are you saying?

Obama birthers Hillary Clinton's staff made up lies about him.

Fixed for accuracy.


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No one is making up anything about Cruz.

No one except Donald Trump and Macro Rubio...and the sheep that repeat what they say about Cruz's eligibility.




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The facts of his birth are crystal clear.

Are they?


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Good try though.

Your attempt at spin on this issue sucked more than a gay Pride parade in Boston.
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