Freepers are giggling over TN church shooting

[MrsSmith]

BlueDogDemocratNH  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 09:02 PM
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Freepers are giggling over TN church shooting
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It was probably a mini-rally for The Obamassiah and they were singing "The sun will come out tomorrow ....". Otherwise, a musical about a poor orphan (Annie) who is befriended by a rich capitalist (Daddy Warbucks), doesn't really fit the UU agenda. Now maybe, if there were a lesbian relationship between Annie and Mommy Warbucks or Annie got pregnant and had to get raise money for an abortion, that would be truly a part of the UU world view.
posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:09:04 PM by reg45


You don’t know many Unitarians do you? It’s a “progressive” church. They probably had The Vagina Monologues scheduled for the evening service. Prayers up for the injured.
posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:02:48 PM by AndrewB


Unitarians are basically Star Wars fans. They believe that there is a god force that all souls are part. Read Emerson’s “The Oversoul” if you want to understand more about Unitarians.
posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 01:30:10 PM by struggle



This is why there was a loaded Glock concealed beneath my sport coat this morning, and every morning I am at church. Oh, and an extra clip in case they’re fat or I miss.
posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:48:35 PM by DaveLoneRanger


Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion with Jewish-Christian roots. It has no creed. It affirms the worth of human beings, advocates freedom of belief and the search for advancing truth, and tries to provide a warm, open, supportive community for people who believe that ethical living is the supreme witness of religion.”

In other words, a NEW AGE church.

What do you expect? God is NOT in the center of this church. Human beings are.
posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:35:05 PM by Ben Reyes

 

Giggling?   

applegrove (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 09:04 PM
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1. What a great time to put down another church. 
   
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 jobycom (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 09:05 PM
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2. With Christians like that, who needs Satan?
 
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 Tandalayo_Scheisskopf  (1000+ posts)       Sun Jul-27-08 09:06 PM
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3. Why do you bother...
 With trash like that? These are the people who pick their boogers and eat them.

mloutre  (893 posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 09:07 PM
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4. jeebus, what truly sick ****tards!!
 
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 bluestateguy (1000+ posts)       Sun Jul-27-08 09:08 PM
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5. And there you have it
 Any church that is not Southern Baptist, white, racist, homophobic, sexist and fundamentalist is simply not legitimate.
 
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 tsuki  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 09:30 PM
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7. You forgot misogynistic. nt

So, the DUmp's take on the shooting...

gatorboy  (1000+ posts)       Sun Jul-27-08 08:38 PM
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Neighbors: Accused shooter everyone's friend, hated Christianity
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The man accused of a mass church shooting this morning was described by his Powell neighbors as a helpful and kind man, but one who had issues with Christianity.

Jim D. Adkisson, 58, has been charged with first-degree murder in the shooting at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church, which killed one and injured eight others.

He is being held on $1 million bond.

"He had his own sense of belief about religion, that's the impression I got of him," said neighbor Karen Massey. "We were talking one day when my daughter graduated from Bible college, and I told him I was a Christian, then he almost turned angry.

"He seemed to get angry at that."
 

kestrel91316  (1000+ posts)       Sun Jul-27-08 08:41 PM
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2. Why would someone who hated christianity attack UNITARIANS???
 Conservative christians don't recognize Unitarian Universalist churches as Christian. Heck, I'm not sure Unitarians consider themselves Christian.........
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 gatorboy  (1000+ posts)       Sun Jul-27-08 08:42 PM
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4. That's what I was wondering as well.
 But who knows. Perhaps to him a church is a church, regardless.  
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 baldguy  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 08:42 PM
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5. There's no requirement to believe in the divinity of Christ.
 Some do, some don't.
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 Jack Rabbit  (1000+ posts)       Sun Jul-27-08 08:44 PM
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7. I'm a Unitarian
 . . . and I am not a Christian. I believe neither in the Trinity nor in the divinity of Christ.
 
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 kestrel91316  (1000+ posts)       Sun Jul-27-08 08:48 PM
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11. Heck, some Unitarians are pagans. And some are from the
 Jewish tradition........  

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 Jack Rabbit  (1000+ posts)       Sun Jul-27-08 08:50 PM
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13. As we like to say . . .
 . . . We have room for all traditions, like yours.
 
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 Demeter (1000+ posts)       Sun Jul-27-08 09:47 PM
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25. A Few Do. We Have Buddhist UUs, Jewish UUs, Agnostic, Atheistic
 it's an inclusive congregation. There's no orthodoxy, no truth, just basic principles:

There are seven principles which Unitarian Universalist congregations affirm and promote:


The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.


http://www.uua.org/visitors/6798.shtml
 
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 FKA MNChimpH8R (173 posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 09:47 PM
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26. Exactly what I was trying to figure out
 Unitarians are the most peaceable and reasonable of religious folks. If this guy hates Xtians so much, why not hear for some Freeper-style/fundymentalpatient gathering.
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 supernova  (1000+ posts)       Sun Jul-27-08 08:41 PM
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3. So, he shot up a UU church?
 odd.

Why not Assemblies of God or an SBC church, which is probably more in keeping with what he was angry at.

So, when a DUmpMonkey says it, it's OK, but if a "freeper" says it, it's "giggling over the shooting."  OK!!   

[Ptarmigan]

WTF??????????????????????? Two people are dead!!!!!!!

[rich_t]

WTF??????????????????????? Two people are dead!!!!!!!

Yup.

People die every day.

[Ptarmigan]

Yup.

People die every day.

People don't die at church because of some psychopath.

[JohnnyReb]

Somebody has to ask it. So what was the shooters' DUmp name?

[franksolich]

I take it none of the primitives can possibly qualify as Unitarians.

From the mouths of the primitives, their own mouths:

There are seven principles which Unitarian Universalist congregations affirm and promote:

The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.

Damn, here's another case where franksolich--and just about everybody else here--is not only a better "Buddhist" than Pedro Picasso, but apparently a better "Unitarian" than the primitives.

[Chris_]

I take it none of the primitives can possibly qualify as Unitarians.

From the mouths of the primitives, their own mouths:

There are seven principles which Unitarian Universalist congregations affirm and promote:

The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.

Damn, here's another case where franksolich--and just about everybody else here--is not only a better "Buddhist" than Pedro Picasso, but apparently a better "Unitarian" than the primitives.

I hope you aren't on board with that One World shit.

[franksolich]

I take it none of the primitives can possibly qualify as Unitarians.

From the mouths of the primitives, their own mouths:

There are seven principles which Unitarian Universalist congregations affirm and promote:

The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.

Damn, here's another case where franksolich--and just about everybody else here--is not only a better "Buddhist" than Pedro Picasso, but apparently a better "Unitarian" than the primitives.

I hope you aren't on board with that One World shit.

Nah.

My definition of "one world" varies significantly with the primitive and Unitarian definition.

My definition is that like a big happy family, every member distinct and individual, no amorphous blob eating off  "rich" America.

It's something different.

[USA4ME]

supernova

So, he shot up a UU church?

odd.

Why not Assemblies of God or an SBC church, which is probably more in keeping with what he was angry at.

Because....

DaveLoneRanger

God is NOT in the center of this church. Human beings are.

So in an odd sort of way, the triggerman did shoot those more in keeping with what created his anger.

No, I don't expect the DUmmies to understand what that means.

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[jinxmchue]

And, of course, when New Life Church in Colo. Springs was attacked by a gunman, the DUmp monkeys were the picture of care and concern...




If you believe that, you obviously haven't been here very long:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3095799

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2435129

There's lots more where those came from, but honestly, trying to slog through them made the vomit come up to the back of my throat.

The DUmp monkeys aren't anything if not hypocritical jackholes.

[TheSarge]

[WinOne4TheGipper]

That most certainly is not giggling, but even if it were, who the hell do the DUmmies think they are?  They have no right to pass judgment on anyone for any alleged incident of cruel behavior.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Somebody has to ask it. So what was the shooters' DUmp name?

He certainly fits the profile as far as hating religion, but I'm not so sure he qualifies based on the "Friendly and helpful neighbor" part.

[Tucker]

Does anyone know if this ** cough**cough** church has a tax exempt status?

[Airwolf]

So far its being reported now that he hated the churches liberal stand on issues( Have no idea what ones but that is what the radio reports said.) No more about what the note found in his car really said and of course the blame on Gun owners will start in 3...2....1...

[dutch508]

'nother thread, same stupidity.

bigworld  (512 posts)      Mon Jul-28-08 08:27 AM
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Church shooting: Police find manifesto in suspect’s car
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Police apparently found a multi-page, handwritten letter in the vehicle of the shotgun-wielding suspect charged in Sunday’s mass shooting during a children’s play at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church.

The letter apparently offers some clues about accused shooter Jim D. Adkisson’s motive for targeting the church’s congregation, although specifics were not immediately available.

John Gill, special assistant to Knox County District Attorney General Randy Nichols, said this morning "it would be inappropriate at this time" to discuss any evidence that may or may not have been found.

"It’s very early in this investigation and at this point we need to let the smoke clear before anyone talks too much," Gill said.

Read more: http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/church-shootin... /

TechBear_Seattle  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-28-08 09:13 AM
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6. So this will be spun as an amoral atheist murdering the faithful
 Limpballs and his ilk hate atheists more than they hate liberals, after all.

johnfunk (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-28-08 08:45 AM
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2. Alleged shooter self-described "Confederate"
 From WBIR's web site:
A neighbor told 10News [alleged shooter Jim] Adkisson described himself as a "Confederate" and a "believer in the old South." She says Adkisson self-identified in this way to her on more than one occasion, but that she didn't know what he meant by it.
A "Confederate" and "believer in the old South." In other words, he hates the United States of America.
Is it too ******* hard for anyone in the media to
say he's a "domestic terrorist"?

Have to agree with you there, pal.

sui generis  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-28-08 09:04 AM
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5. now, exactly when did the civil wawa end?
 has anyone told the confederates yet that the wawa between the states has ended?

 


oops... and now we go into insanity...

superconnected  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-28-08 06:31 PM
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154. Yep, and sociopathy appears to be a mostly republican disease.

IanDB1  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-28-08 06:35 PM
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156. Our tax dollars are paying to transmit Limbaugh on our state-sponsored Armed Forces radio. 
 So, when people all around the world wanna know who the U.S. Government has chosen as a paid representative of their political views...

They hear Rush Limbaugh and "Doctor" Laura.

posted because the guy used to be in the Army, and so has been 'programed' by the neo-cons...

yardwork  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-28-08 11:31 AM
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42. He was mad at liberals for reducing his food stamps? He truly was deranged.
 Unfortunately, I hear this kind of thing from right-wingers all the time. They don't seem to understand much at all about the world we're living in.

Mr. Pot. Mr. Kettle. You are now both...oh...er...

rfranklin  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-28-08 11:24 AM
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25. Right wing terrorism fueled by religious fanatcism...
 None of that softie liberal Kumbaya stuff!

 

fasttense (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-28-08 11:24 AM
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26. Lay these murders at Rush Limpball and hate radios feet. They are to blame. 
 They have incited violence, murdered two people, injured seven and have left hundreds to suffer from the shock for the rest of their lives. I wonder if Rush and his hate radio spawn are satisfied now? He is shouting fire in a theater and everyone pretends it's only politics

But the silver lining is that a group of unarmed liberals took down this armed right wing crazy. Conservatives would have all scrambled to get out letting everyone to handel it on their own. 

 
talk about yer spin spin spin...

fascisthunter  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-28-08 11:24 AM
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21. Remember what happened in Rwanda?
 All started with hate radio....

ok, with that note...we'll close...

[TheSarge]

anDB1  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-28-08 06:35 PM
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156. Our tax dollars are paying to transmit Limbaugh on our state-sponsored Armed Forces radio. 
 So, when people all around the world wanna know who the U.S. Government has chosen as a paid representative of their political views...

They hear Rush Limbaugh and "Doctor" Laura.

We get the first hour ONLY of Rush.  It was on our AM station on the ROK and it was at 8pm.

The schedule is pretty much the same in Europe.

Along with Rush we get NPR...AP Radio News...Ed Schultz and Al Franken.

Nice try retard...but your conspiracy theory sucks.

Oh and Stars and Stripes LTE's and Op-Eds read like they were cut and pasted out of the New York Times...so suck a dick ok pal.

This ****wit REALLY need to think next time before hitting "send" on the computer.