Police cleared of wrong doing in shooting of Cleveland juv.
IDemo (16,125 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141298151
Cleveland Officer Will Not Face Charges in Tamir Rice Shooting Death
Conch (29 posts)
6. Unbelievable...is what this should be. Unfortunately, in America this is far too common to not be believable.
Police received a dispatch to a high crime area with a report of a man with a gun. They arrive and Tamir pulls the gun out of his waistband.
randys1 (14,089 posts)
32. Realize right now tens of millions of rightwing brain dead asshole morons are shaking their head in agreement that this is the correct outcome.
It is our fault, but we have a MASSIVE number of Americans, including some Democrats and DU members, who think the kid should have just not been there, that it is his fault.
Of course not ONE of the tens of millions who believe this would continue to believe it if Tamir was their son or grandson, you see.
NOT ONE
****ing bigot racist mother****ers
p.s. I blame the shooter cop LESS than I blame the John Wayne hotshot prick that he was with, who was supposed to know better
You mean the other cop who didn't shoot?
Look, randy, I know you are a ****ing idiot and all that. However police are trained to respond to a weapon. The 'bb-gun' looked real from five feet away. Tamir pulled it out as the cops approached. Dispatch never told them it might be a fake weapon. Two Police offers were killed in that park prior to this event.
It was a perfect storm of shit and it all happened because Tamir wanted to play gansta in the park.
rladdi (248 posts)
5. Our Grand Jury system is created to be the spoke person for the Prosecutors who have no guts to make final decisions. They are elected so they use Grand Jury as their spoke people.
Why do we have a grand jury system, it is so flawed when it comes to cop murders. We see their decisions over and over again. No charges against killer cops. This decision is a swap in the face of the people of America. We know what the decision will be before the grand jury ever hears only the evidence that the prosecutor wants to provide to them. Tim McGirty has NO GUTS to make the decision.
When will the people of America demand changes to the grand jury system and get rid of prosecutors who are really part of law enforcement.
Since the Republicans have gain more control of the communities and the states, we have seen more cop killings and mass murders. The promote guns and support the NRA.
I was enraged over his comments about the murder was a learning situation.
There was no crime committed by the Police.
barbtries (16,580 posts)
17. cops have a license to murder.
i am so sad...i know the feeling of having to deal with a travesty of justice following the death of my daughter. This is worse; my heart goes out to Tamir's mother
FLPanhandle (5,084 posts)
20. The original caller and the dispatcher share a good bit of the blame
They created the scenario the police thought they were dealing with (i.e. 911 call of someone carrying/pointing a gun).
Horrible policing, no doubt, but there was no way to get a conviction based on the dangerous situation they thought they were entering.
Why did someone have to call 911 on what they already thought was a juvenile with a toy gun?
Why did the dispatcher not relay that critical information?
Police Line of Duty Deaths: 1269/11 related illness: 6
Accidental: 2
Aircraft accident: 1
Assault: 3Automobile accident: 28
Bomb: 4Duty related illness: 2
Fall: 1
Gunfire: 39Gunfire (Accidental): 2
Heart attack: 17
Motorcycle accident: 4
Struck by vehicle: 5Vehicle pursuit: 5
Vehicular assault: 7brett_jv (970 posts)
39. Of ALL of the high profile shootings that've happened ... I'm MOST PISSED ...
About this one. The only other one that comes close is the Oscar ... something ... dude that was killed on the BART platform, that they made the movie about.
THIS ... was a ****ing EXECUTION, and one where I'm 100% positive that if this had been a 12 YEAR OLD WHITE CHILD, that:
1) The cop would've been indicted nearly IMMEDIATELY, and
2) That it would've been HUGE news, for weeks on end ... you wouldn't have been able to NOT know who Tamir Rice was. Unlike now, where MAYBE 5% of people know the name.
If there was a EVER a cause for people to take to the friggin' streets and RIOT, and burn the damn town to the ground ... it was this case. This is more egregious to me than Trayvon Martin, or Freddie Gray, or Michael Brown ... rolled up into one.
This was a friggin' CHILD, with a toy gun, playing all by himself, nobody else around, slaughtered by the police in cold blood ... police who had very OBVIOUS 'other options' available to them ... in terms of how to handle the situation.
For example ... they could've simply parked a ways away, got on loudspeaker, and ordered the child to drop the weapon.
And we have this ON VIDEO for Dog's Sake. This is no he-said, she-said BS. This was the most obvious example of 'we're executing you for being black' case I think I've seen in 30 years.
I just want to say F*** YOU CLEVELAND.
This is bullshit.
I normally never say "I understand rioting" cause I normally do NOT. But this ... if the community got together and set fire to the precinct these cops worked at tonight ... I would completely understand. Not CONDONE, might you, but understand.
RIP Tamir Rice. And my heart goes out to this boys family tonight. This was NOT RIGHT.
kwassa (20,409 posts)
45. The prosecutors really are police, and won't indict one of their own.
instead, once again, they turn the grand jury proceeding into secret, fake trial to produce the result that the want. No resemblence to justice.
https://www.odmp.org/agency/735-cleveland-police-department-ohio
