Rich bitch inside her gated community doesn`t care about the Constitution.

[Delmar]

Response to kpete (Original post)Thu Dec 3, 2015, 04:27 PM
cleanhippie (18,523 posts)
265. "The right to kill"????

Must have missed that one in civics class.

Maybe for people like this gasbag, I should give zero ****s about his first amendment rights.

Good one, cleanhippie--as if such a thing exists.  18 thousand posts.  Deep cover mole.

[obumazombie]

I so wish Buzzy was still around.
He could help me with the quandary I am in.
That is now that he has come around to supporting confiscation.
Ostensibly he would be the first one to volunteer to have his firearms confiscated.
So here is my problem.
Some terrorists are let into our country on questionable Visa and commit a terrorist act against our countrymen with foreign weapons.
Quite possibly some of the weapons originated in owebuma and Holder's fast and furious scandal.
And our response should be to ban and confiscate all weapons owned by legitimate hard working tax paying citizens ?
Is that about it Buzzy ?
Please deign to explain that to me Buzzy.

[tuolumnejim]

I see the nasty candidate for a late term abortion has no idea what "well regulated" means in 18th Century vernacular. 

nadinbrzezinski (141,800 posts)
112. You should read a lot more into the case law

I would recommend a law library. But until Heller the USSC did pretty much go into the idea of a well regulated, which Heller threw on it's nose.

For the moment I will start you here. Non technical and a nice little essay on upcoming (maybe) challenges.

[Delmar]

I see the nasty candidate for a late term abortion has no idea what "well regulated" means in 18th Century vernacular. 

For the moment I will start you here.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, nads.

[SVPete]

Rex (58,190 posts)
129. Yes and that is why we have a National Guard.

If the Founders wanted the word 'individual' in the 2A they would have put it in there. They were very good with wording. We have the 2A because the British came back in 1812 with a vengeance. That is recorded history.

As PGR said, what came to be called the 2nd Amendment was written and adopted long before the War of 1812 - proposed before Congress in 1789, and ratified in 1791.

As for Rex's first sentence, (s)he should have re-read the Bill of Rights before posting something so stupid. If "people" does not mean "individuals", guess what else is no longer the rights of individuals:

1st Amendment: rights to peaceably assemble and to petition the government;

4th Amendment: rights not to have their property searched/seized without a search warrant, probable cause being a prerequisite for a search warrant being issued, and the objects being sought being specified;

The 9th and 10th amendments in their entirety.

Those who want to play words games so as to deny the clear and obvious meaning of the 2nd Amendment should at least make sure that denial doesn't also deny other rights, rights more cherished by the one trying to deny the right recognized in the 2nd Amendment.