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Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« on: November 25, 2015, 06:49:34 PM »
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Wed Nov 25, 2015, 06:29 AM
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Rubio budget win is dealing heavy blow to ObamaCare


http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/261244-rubio-budget-win-is-dealing-heavy-blow-to-obamacare

Rubio budget win is dealing heavy blow to ObamaCare


By Sarah Ferris - 11/24/15 06:12 PM EST

Sen. Marco Rubio may have dealt the biggest blow in the GOP’s five-year war against ObamaCare. A 2014 budget measure inspired by the Florida senator and presidential hopeful is pushing some insurers to drop out of the ObamaCare exchanges, experts say.

“I think this is one of the most effective things they’ve done so far in terms of trying to undermine the Affordable Care Act,” Tim Jost, a healthcare law professor at Washington and Lee University, said of Republicans in Congress.

This fall, more than a dozen health insurers representing 800,000 people have dropped out of the ObamaCare exchanges, many out of fear that the administration no longer has the cash to cushion their losses in the costly early years of the marketplace. The nation’s largest insurer, UnitedHealthCare, specifically mentioned the specter of a funding shortfall last week when it threatened to end its participation in the exchanges after 2016.

The angst in the industry centers on an obscure program in the healthcare law known as “risk corridors” that was designed to shield insurers against losses. Rubio in 2013 went on the warpath against the program, decrying it as a “taxpayer bailout.”
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While Rubio’s attempt to scrap risk corridors altogether was unsuccessful, his push contributed to a policy rider that was inserted into a 1,603-page spending bill passed at the end of 2014. Under the provision, which is still in effect, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) could no longer tap other accounts — like its overall appropriations or its Medicare funding — to fund the risk corridors program.

Now Rubio is taking his crusade against the "bailout" program to the presidential campaign trail. The senator and dozens of other Republicans are seeking to renew the policy rider — or repeal risk corridors altogether — in the year-end budget bill that Congress must pass by Dec. 11 to avoid a government shutdown.
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BarryCare is a failure.  Cut it loose and let it sink.  No sense in letting it drag all of us down with it.  Well done, Senator Rubio!

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1. I wish every one of these f*ers a slow and painful demise, them with their Rolls Royce HC plans.

You don't like O'care? FIX IT.


Fix it?  There is no fixing this turd.  And if it were fixable, it would be the democrats job to fix it, not Rubio's.  High Fives to Senator Rubio for mitigating the damage from Barry's Unaffordable Care Act!

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Response to nitpicker (Original post)Wed Nov 25, 2015, 07:14 AM
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2. Leave Medicare alone

Milking it for cash just subsidize insurers is wrong.

ObamaCare needs to stand on its own two feet. If it can't, then tweak it and get it right. Medicare is to important to our elderly to be treated as a cash machine.

I can't beleive I just agreed with Rubio. Oy Vey!

Woo hoo!  High Five to DUmmy Kilgore who just experienced a moment of clarity.  But you're not quite there yet DUmmy Kilgore, there is no tweaking this disaster.

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5. How many poison pills are they loading into that budget bill?

There's this, there's defunding Planned Parenthood, and there was at least one other thing that I can't recall at the moment.

I don't know if they honestly expect to push this crap through or if they're daring Obama to veto it so they can blame him for the government shutdown. Either way, it's dirty business.
Cry me a river, dipshit.

I have something to be thankful for tomorrow.  Gracias, Senator Rubio, my new hero!

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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2015, 07:38:26 PM »
If Sen. Rubio did indeed provide for this millstone around the neck of the monster called Obamacare, he just went up several notches in my book.
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015, 07:42:58 PM »
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5. How many poison pills are they loading into that budget bill?

There's this, there's defunding Planned Parenthood, and there was at least one other thing that I can't recall at the moment.

I don't know if they honestly expect to push this crap through or if they're daring Obama to veto it so they can blame him for the government shutdown. Either way, it's dirty business.

We won.
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015, 07:48:16 PM »
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"...out of fear that the administration no longer has the cash to cushion their losses in the costly early years of the marketplace."

 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

They won't be a patch on the ass of the LATER years of the program, dipshits!
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2015, 07:51:56 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 25, 2015, 07:48:16 PM
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

They won't be a patch on the ass of the LATER years of the program, dipshits!

Or the cliff the Medicaid program will be to the states.
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2015, 04:52:10 AM »
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2. Leave Medicare alone

Milking it for cash just subsidize insurers is wrong.

ObamaCare needs to stand on its own two feet. If it can't, then tweak it and get it right. Medicare is to important to our elderly to be treated as a cash machine.

I can't beleive I just agreed with Rubio. Oy Vey!


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Woo hoo!  High Five to DUmmy Kilgore who just experienced a moment of clarity.  But you're not quite there yet DUmmy Kilgore, there is no tweaking this disaster.

Besides being just incredibly stupid, the Romper Room wants OblameOcare "tweeked" because it is his signature accomplishment.  They can't abide their Lightbringer being dealt such an ego-bruising episode like it crashing spectacularly.

Sorry, (D)Ullards.







Too late for that.
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2015, 04:58:38 AM »
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Too late for that.

For some reason, I can't stop watching those . . . :whistling:
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2015, 06:06:29 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on November 26, 2015, 04:58:38 AM
For some reason, I can't stop watching those . . . :whistling:
I try to superimpose their little fascist "D" on the engine cabs.

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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2015, 07:27:43 AM »
DU-folk are reacting as one might expect - one of their sacred oxen is getting gored. And, of course, we all know what sacred oxen produce aplenty!

The question I have is, if this article from The Hill is supposed to be news, where is the clear explanation of what Sen. Rubio's bill would do? There's some sort of semi-explanation fairly deep in the article, not very clear, but it should be more clear, succinct, and in the first paragraph of a news report on the bill.
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2015, 07:29:39 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on November 26, 2015, 04:58:38 AM
For some reason, I can't stop watching those . . . :whistling:

I keep looking around for Nell, Dudley Do-Right, and Horse.
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2015, 08:29:21 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on November 25, 2015, 07:38:26 PM
If Sen. Rubio did indeed provide for this millstone around the neck of the monster called Obamacare, he just went up several notches in my book.
To me, he just did his job. His membership in the gang of eight, and his love of amnesty will forever mark him as a Rino for me. If nominated, I will sit out the election, Hillary or not.
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2015, 09:02:58 AM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on November 26, 2015, 08:29:21 AM
To me, he just did his job. His membership in the gang of eight, and his love of amnesty will forever mark him as a Rino for me. If nominated, I will sit out the election, Hillary or not.

Yeah, for some reason we've got ourselves into a situation where the Northeastern and West coast Rockefeller Republicans big donors are not thinking clearly at all. For whatever reason, they've decided they don't like social conservative Christian voters in their party, which is really, really stupid of them. The main concern for the Republican donor class is less gov't intrusion into the economic affairs of the everyday businessperson. All they have to do is not push their social liberal junk on the rest of us and they've got it made. Instead, I keep reading about these big R donors who are also giving big money and supporting homo marriage, Planned Parenthood, global warming, and amnesty. How stupid are these people? Give it up, big R donors, and you'll have support for the 95% of what we all want together.

I was driving back home from near the Atlanta area last week and got to hear Rush, which I rarely do anymore, and he was saying he's reached the conclusion that these R donors would rather Hillary win and to rid the party of social conservative Christian voters. I had thought the exact same thing for some time now.

What neither they nor the Dems seem to realize is that if social conservative Christians are shunned by both major parties, it will take time but eventually we'll just grow apathetic towards it all. It would be a clear message to me that the majority of the citizens have decided to just abandon the Constitution. So we'll live and keep working among the rest, but otherwise we won't participate. At some point, the country will be called to arms, and it'll be too late, because we'll just not care anymore. And they can't win without us. It's essentially how Rome finally became a nothing state; apathy.

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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2015, 09:24:01 AM »
Quote from: USA4ME on November 26, 2015, 09:02:58 AM

Those are all legitimate concerns based upon what's really happening.

I dunno what to do about it--to win, we need both the social conservatives and the so-called fiscal-matters-only Republicans ("Rockefeller Republicans" is a good description of them, but the term's kind of dated for the younger generations).

But as an individual, I'm hoping they can collaborate in a useful and enthusiastic manner. 

Otherwise.....

And yes, the blame falls mainly on one side, not on both sides.  I don't know any social conservatives who are "against" any of the things the fiscal-matters-only Republicans want (in the arena of fiscal affairs).
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2015, 12:50:26 PM »
I wouldn't sit out this election even if the GOP ran Donald Duck for president. The Duck would make a better president than Hillary Clinton, and if all the purists who smugly sat home in 2008 had voted, we wouldn't have President Jughead, Jugheadcare, gay marriage, the threat to the 2nd Amendment, the torturing of Freedom of Religion, the Middle East erupting, the inner cities erupting, college campuses being held hostage by the precious little snowflakes who are offended by the free speech rights of others, etc., etc., etc.

Vote. Even if you have to hold your nose to do it. Just. Go. Vote.
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2015, 01:12:29 PM »
There's a couple of guys I couldn't vote for even with my nose pinched, but Rubio isn't one of them.  Not my preferred choice, though that's pretty open still.
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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2015, 01:14:53 PM »
Kilgore must have missed the part where O-Care gutted $700 billion from Medicare on day 1.
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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2015, 01:18:40 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2015, 02:57:24 PM »
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That phrase is gNads specific. She will not be amused by this intrusion.

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Re: Marco Rubio has just skyrocketed in my estimation
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2015, 03:56:36 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on November 26, 2015, 09:02:58 AM
... Rush ... was saying he's reached the conclusion that these R donors would rather Hillary win and to rid the party of social conservative Christian voters. I had thought the exact same thing for some time now.

If you wonder what happened to the R Party in California, that encapsulates it. If a "Mo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oderate" wins the R nomination for an office, (s)he spends more campaign time - if they campaign at all - distancing themselves from conservatives, especially Pro-Life people than in actually campaigning against their D opponent. If a conservative wins the R nomination for an office, "Mo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oderate" R Party Operatives and donors pick up their toys and go home; they really would rather the D be elected rather than the conservative.
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2015, 05:42:40 PM »
Voted for Johnson in the last election. He had better conservative inclinations than romney. Felt a whole lot better about it than my McCain vote before.
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2015, 06:45:19 PM »
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1. I wish every one of these f*ers a slow and painful demise, them with their Rolls Royce HC plans.

You don't like O'care? FIX IT.

Liberals broke it without a single vote from republicans.  :bwah: **** you DUmmies. You got what you wanted.

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